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Old 06-02-2009, 11:29 PM  
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Matt Cassel on 810 WHB tomorrow
Matt Cassel will be on BTL tomorrow on 810 WHB around 3:30. According to KK, he will open up the phone lines and Cassel will answer questions from some of the listners. Sounds cool, can't wait!


EDIT: KK said at the beginning of the show that he may not be on! He's obviously not on so I guess they were not able to get him.
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Old 06-04-2009, 04:16 PM   #331
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...hence them being #2's on our team. I'm saying they're as good as Bradley or Engram (at this point), only younger.

Oh, and Cotchery has only really played 3 years and has been behind Coles up to this point, with shaky QB play. He's a good WR.
Cotchery is a fine player, but I wouldn't want him as my top option. As far as the 2 clowns you mention, they have done NOTHING in this league to warrant being number 2's over anyone. They do have a guy in Keller that could be a pretty good TE in this league and I forgot about him.
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Old 06-04-2009, 04:21 PM   #332
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Cotchery is a fine player, but I wouldn't want him as my top option. As far as the 2 clowns you mention, they have done NOTHING in this league to warrant being number 2's over anyone. They do have a guy in Keller that could be a pretty good TE in this league and I forgot about him.
They've looked pretty good in the limited chances they've gotten, and they're still young and developing. I honestly think the two of them, and definitely Stuckey, will be decent at worst.

Keller's going to be a very good TE for a number of years.
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Old 06-04-2009, 04:26 PM   #333
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They've looked pretty good in the limited chances they've gotten, and they're still young and developing. I honestly think the two of them, and definitely Stuckey, will be decent at worst.

Keller's going to be a very good TE for a number of years.
You could be right and since you seem to have actually watched these guys play, I'll quit arguing with ya on this subject.
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Old 06-04-2009, 04:44 PM   #334
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I know most people think I'm out of my mind for going total yards, but the Chiefs WR's and LINE are going to make life very trying for Cassel, and we rarely if EVER do shit on yards after the catch unless our guys happen to be wide-open with not a damned soul in sight to stop them.
If Waters holds out and doesn't show up, it get's REAL interesting at that point.
As Jason Sauto mentioned, that YAC will almost certainly be improved when these receivers, especially Bowe can make catches in stride, because the ball is delivered accurately.

Cassel, if nothing else, is far more accurate than Thigpen.

It's really difficult to rack up any YAC when you are constantly having to make plays simply to make the catch.
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Old 06-04-2009, 04:49 PM   #335
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As Jason Sauto mentioned, that YAC will almost certainly be improved when these receivers, especially Bowe can make catches in stride, because the ball is delivered accurately.

Cassel, if nothing else, is far more accurate than Thigpen.

It's really difficult to rack up any YAC when you are constantly having to make plays simply to make the catch.
Just to play Devil's Advocate, since there's no way to know without watching every pass Cassel threw last year, but...

How accurate do you have to be when a WR is WIDE open?

When I think of YAC due to hitting guys in stride, I think of Warner and the Rams "Greatest Show on Turf."

I didn't really see anything resembling that in the 8-10 Patriots games I watched last year. I saw a lot of separation from the WR's, and I saw guys making a move, a defender missing, and 20+ yards being picked up.

FWIW, I do agree that Cassel is much more accurate than Thigpen. That's a given, IMO.
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Old 06-04-2009, 04:57 PM   #336
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Just to play Devil's Advocate, since there's no way to know without watching every pass Cassel threw last year, but...

How accurate do you have to be when a WR is WIDE open?

When I think of YAC due to hitting guys in stride, I think of Warner and the Rams "Greatest Show on Turf."

I didn't really see anything resembling that in the 8-10 Patriots games I watched last year. I saw a lot of separation from the WR's, and I saw guys making a move, a defender missing, and 20+ yards being picked up.

FWIW, I do agree that Cassel is much more accurate than Thigpen. That's a given, IMO.
With the closing speed that secondary defenders in the NFL have, even if a receiver is open by about ten yards, if the balll is delivered as inaccurately as Thigpen delivered it, there isn't much opportunity for YAC.
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As Jason Sauto mentioned, that YAC will almost certainly be improved when these receivers, especially Bowe can make catches in stride, because the ball is delivered accurately.

Cassel, if nothing else, is far more accurate than Thigpen.

It's really difficult to rack up any YAC when you are constantly having to make plays simply to make the catch.
True enough. But even if Bowe and co. display immaculate timing, it's not gonna' mean jack when three defenders are tearing through your line and barreling at your ass full-speed.*

And WHO is it...that likes to take his sweet time releasing?

And WHO is it...that can't or won't block for jack-shit in the back field?

Variables. Tons of them.

*This is doubly-so if Waters is a no-go.
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With the closing speed that secondary defenders in the NFL have, even if a receiver is open by about ten yards, if the balll is delivered as inaccurately as Thigpen delivered it, there isn't much opportunity for YAC.
Well, yeah.

I was talking about Cassel.
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Old 06-04-2009, 05:01 PM   #339
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But even if Bowe and co. display immaculate timing, it's not gonna' mean jack when three defenders are tearing through your line and barreling at your ass full-speed.*
And I'll to that:

That means shorter, more intermediate routes and well, less yardage.
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You think our line is that bad Raised on Riots? Albert will be a better player and if Waters plays we'll have solid guards. Hopefully that Guycheck guy beats out Niswanger.
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Just to play Devil's Advocate, since there's no way to know without watching every pass Cassel threw last year, but...

How accurate do you have to be when a WR is WIDE open?

When I think of YAC due to hitting guys in stride, I think of Warner and the Rams "Greatest Show on Turf."

I didn't really see anything resembling that in the 8-10 Patriots games I watched last year. I saw a lot of separation from the WR's, and I saw guys making a move, a defender missing, and 20+ yards being picked up.

FWIW, I do agree that Cassel is much more accurate than Thigpen. That's a given, IMO.
I'm sure you've already seen the youtube clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ctvPzDMfp0
Half of those plays are definitely short, gimme passes to a wide open receiver (usually Welker). But pay attention to the other half. For as good as the receivers are, the majority of the passes were perfectly placed balls. I was especially impressed with his command of when to lead a receiver and when to get it into his back shoulder.

I realize it's a highlight reel and you see the good, but not the bad. But it should be reassuring that there are enough highlights where you can clearly see his ability to put the ball in a perfect spot. I still believe that his offensive line handicapped him a lot more than people realize and I still believe that if the Chiefs can one day put a real offensive line in front of him and he can consistently step into his throws, he will have tremendous upside.

I don't buy into the inaccuracy stuff. I think people say that because he doesn't throw a real pretty deep ball. But from what I've seen, when he has an opportunity to set his feet, he throws a really hard, accurate ball.
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True enough. But even if Bowe and co. display immaculate timing, it's not gonna' mean jack when three defenders are tearing through your line and barreling at your ass full-speed.*

And WHO is it...that likes to take his sweet time releasing?

And WHO is it...that can't or won't block for jack-shit in the back field?

Variables. Tons of them.

*This is doubly-so if Waters is a no-go.
This is why we will still see a similar offense to the one we saw last year.

Cassel will be in the shotgun at least 70-70% of the time.
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Well, yeah.

I was talking about Cassel.
The point is, when these receivers, especially Bowe have some separation, Cassel can deliver the ball accurately and give them an opportunity.
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You think our line is that bad Raised on Riots? Albert will be a better player and if Waters plays we'll have solid guards. Hopefully that Guycheck guy beats out Niswanger.
Do not discount for one moment the level of suck that KC's O-Line is capable of.
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To go completely off-topic here (hey - it'w the offseason), I have to ask - is the Jason Sauto thing a running gag? I saw it all through the draft discussions.

Since the guy is a mechanic with his own shop IIRC, I assumed the username meant Jason's Auto, like the name of his shop.
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