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[Omaha]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

First off, you didn't specify "Demo". You said record, mix and master in your office. There are tens of thousands of people with prosumer computer recording equipment across the country but 99.9999% of those recordings are rather unlistenable and the songs are generally poor as well.

I was discussing the difficulty local musicians getting songs out to the public with chiefzilla.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And secondly, if a song isn't recorded "properly", regardless of whether or not it's "great" (and that's certainly up for debate), it won't find it's way into film or TV, which is the quickest way to bring attention to a new artist.

Really????? The greatness of this hypothetical indie song is up for debate????? I give.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Omaha

I was discussing the difficulty local musicians getting songs out to the public with chiefzilla.

What a second: How is it difficult? There's the internet! No record labels necessary.

[Omaha]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What a second: How is it difficult? There's the internet! No record labels necessary.

In the '90s. This is what happens when you jump in & throw a tantrum in mid conversation.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Omaha

In the '90s. This is what happens when you jump in & throw a tantrum in mid conversation.

Oh, just **** off.

How many bands were signed from a myspace account in the 90's Mp3.com?

And how many of those bands (I'll let YOU provide the number) had ANY success?

You're an idiot, plain an simple.

I hope that's workin' for ya.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by PostRockPablo

I haven't read the thread, so I don't know the exact context of this argument but I'd imagine Dane/Reaper/Brock are probably arguing that Iron Maiden are still relevant in the fact that they can still sell tickets and promote large tours.

Not that they're out there cranking out brand new albums that everybody cares about and putting up #1 singles on FM radio. I could be wrong, but I'm not going to read any further back than this first page anyhow.

#1 songs have very little to do with relevance. AC/DC never had a #1 song, but they sold out concerts for decades

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Reaper had it right: **** you.

You're crybaby pussy. My "possible" credentials?

Good luck, Know-It-All. There's clearly a reason why you're stuck in Omaha.

I'll ****ing kill you.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

#1 songs have very little to do with relevance. AC/DC never had a #1 song, but they sold out concerts for decades


I'll ****ing kill you.

Just to clarify, I was referring to be a somewhat talented musician, singer, etc. and not currently working in Nashville, Los Angeles, New York or Miami.

You know, he did have a CD!

[Omaha]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Oh, just **** off.

How many bands were signed from a myspace account in the 90's Mp3.com?

And how many of those bands (I'll let YOU provide the number) had ANY success?

You're an idiot, plain an simple.

I hope that's workin' for ya.

WTF are you even talking about?

It appears you lost track and have now resorted to namecalling. Nice.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Omaha

In the '90s. This is what happens when you jump in & throw a tantrum in mid conversation.

Earlier:

Originally Posted by Omaha

I was an indie musician throughout the '90s and we didn't have myspace, youtube, internet radio, satelite radio, or anything to get our music out. We had to beg people to come to our shows, book studio time & spend everything we had to have CDs printed. It was much more difficult to get our music out there & fewer bands were able to do it.

Originally Posted by Omaha

WTF are you even talking about?

Here's what I'm talking about:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Oh, just **** off.

How many bands were signed from a myspace account in the 90's Mp3.com?

And how many of those bands (I'll let YOU provide the number) had ANY success?

You're an idiot, plain an simple.

I hope that's workin' for ya.

The idea that the internet could have been some kind of panacea for indie and unsigned bands was pure horseshit.

Very, very, very few artists broke through due a myspace or mp3.com account in the 90's and quite frankly, the mp3 and filesharing age has all but killed the major label record business.

[Omaha]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Earlier:





Here's what I'm talking about:



The idea that the internet could have been some kind of panacea for indie and unsigned bands was pure horseshit.

Very, very, very few artists broke through due a myspace or mp3.com account in the 90's and quite frankly, the mp3 and filesharing age has all but killed the major label record business.

That wasn't at all my point. It's a lot easier today to get your music out to people than it was in the mid '90s. For people interested in their local music scene, it's much easier to get the music today.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Omaha

That wasn't at all my point. It's a lot easier today to get your music out to people than it was in the mid '90s. For people interested in their local music scene, it's much easier to get the music today.

Yes, it's "easier" to be heard but that doesn't translate into success 99.9% of the time because it's mostly unlistenable garbage.

Did you see the stat from earlier in the thread? Only 2% of all records released in 2009 sold more than 5,000 copies.

That means that while there are far more people printing CD's these days, far less are actually buying them and even less are making any type of impact, musically or socially.

[Omaha]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yes, it's "easier" to be heard but that doesn't translate into success 99.9% of the time because it's mostly unlistenable garbage.

Did you see the stat from earlier in the thread? Only 2% of all records released in 2009 sold more than 5,000 copies.

That means that while there are far more people printing CD's these days, far less are actually buying them and even less are making any type of impact, musically or socially.

Yeah, I actually defended that stat when it was questioned earlier. I also wasn't worried about selling in excess of 5,000 CDs. We were just looking to get people into the bar to hear us. Having 1,000 CDs in circulation did the trick for us. We weren't out there trying hard to get signed.