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Chiefs' offense: "one of the worst in the league, by nearly every measure"
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09-27-2013, 03:42 PM | #1171 |
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No one has said that it can't. Well, okay maybe someone trolling has, but for the most part the discussion has been about Alex Smith's *part* in the offensive struggles.
Not his sole responsibility for. Emphsis on that. Nobody is saying the offensive problems are his fault. There's absolutely no reason for the fan club rush in to his defense. This is the gist of it: he's leading the league in ratio of passes that travel 10 yards or less beyond the LoS. There are purportedly (since it's difficult to see with broadcast TV camera angles...) receivers who are "NFL open" downfield, yet he's to date not even attempted to test any secondary deep. This may be contributing to the struggles on offense. He has faced pressure - because as we all know, the line has not been good - but he's also had plays where he's had time. And in the end he's playing this conservatively thus far despite his head coach's publicly stated desire this offseason to coach him into being a more aggressive QB. As I said, there are several factors which are likely contributing to the offensive struggles. The offensive line is one. The injuries at tight end are one. The playcalling may even be one (although I, personally, think the issue is more one of execution than scheme). And Alex Smith may be one. This is not saying that Alex Smith sucks. This is not saying the team can't thrive with him behind center. And I think we also all understand that this is a three game sample. But we can only judge the 2013 Chiefs offense based on what they've done on the field. That's all we have to go on at this point. Anything else would be conjecture and speculation. Hopefully things begin to click and we can switch from discussing what hasn't worked to discussing what has. |
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how bad the o-line is, everyones favorite 'oooooooo' .gif is of Charles blowing up that shitty Eagles safety on a blitz but its actually telling how bad the o-line is because Charles lays out one guy and then right behind him there is another free guy coming in untouched.
that's two guys the o-line let passed unblocked because of complete breakdowns on their part and if we didnt have a guy as good as Charles to get at least one, Alex Smith would be dead by now. the o-line is a dumpster fire |
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I think that's a good sign. Sure, one can call it luck and Philly's defense being so poor, but when it comes down to it the team had to execute and they did. I think those plays won the game for KC. There is no evidence that Matt Fudgestain would have been able to pull that off.
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the Chiefs OL has been shit since 2007. duh. whatever Jamaal has done has been on stretch plays around the defense using Albert & Bowe's blocks. He's had a few up the middle, but it has been rare. In fact, many fans believe Jamaal is too small to run straight through a defense or get short ydg 1st downs & TD's in spite of the fact he has done those things when he gets blocking. We're 3 games in, the blocking has been atrocious, yet Jamaal is avg 4.3 and on course for a 1,200 yd rushing year and 800yd receiving..... basically, another 2k from scrimmage season. Yet the blocking absolutely blows and is hog tying the OC and the offense.
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Smith has almost no time to throw.
Our Oline sucks. How can you expect AS to drop back 7 steps if half of the Oline can't block? Hudson and Asamoah are getting pushed back into the pocket...great, now Smith has to move left or right into the pocket...so he decides to naturally move right because he's right handed. Welp, can't do that because Fisher got his ****ing ass kicked too. So now all of this being in a span of a couple or few seconds, AS is running for his life as he either scrambles to pick up a few yards with his legs on a broken play or he takes a sack. Hey at least he's not throwing picks. When you have the best punter in the NFL that can pin teams back deep, it's MUCH better to take the loss of yardage and just punt (esp w/ this defense) than to throw a pick and give the ball to the other team w/ good field position. You put the defense in great positions to do it's job and let them get the ball back to you on offense so you can try again. That's the game we're playing right now...Herm Edwards has to be jacking off furiously to our style of play. If our offense wants to get better 3 obvious things MUST happen. - We need to hand the ball off to Charles more. At times the playcalling against PHI was ridiculous. He's the best player on this team, and one of the best in the NFL..you need to get the ball in his hands. - Oline needs to block much better, particularly Eric Fisher. - Give the ball to ****ing Jamaal Charles
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I just find myself incredibly annoyed with the folks that think Alex Smith is some kind of quareterbacking god. I don't know why that group gets on my nerves and the haters don't, but that's the way it is.
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One game at a time. If this offense is exactly where they are today (or worse) in December, then it would be time to worry. Not now, for ****'s sake.
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another strawman... NO ONE thinks this here!
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The big difference about this team is that they appear to know how to win. And I don't think you can overestimate the value of that. For the better part of a decade the Chiefs have managed to lose games in about every way humanly possible. But this team has a blowout, a close win, and a near blowout that was much closer than it appeared (or should have been). Past Chiefs teams don't beat Dallas, in particular. They would lose that game late. Ditto for Philly. But not this team. And that's with the offense performing poorly. And without I think all that much of a boost from the special teams aside from Colquitt's punting. I try not to think about what this team will look like if they put a game together where they're solid in all three phases. I can easily see a game this season where they have a ST score, a defensive score, and 3 offensive scores. And I don't think we've seen the best of the defense yet, either. Interesting comment from Bob Glauber earlier when he was on with Soren Petro (Glauber is an NFL Insider from the NY Newsday for those who don't know): He believes this Chiefs defense is more talented (personnel wise) than any of Rex Ryan's units with the Jets. |
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