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Old 09-26-2013, 06:07 AM  
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Chiefs' offense: "one of the worst in the league, by nearly every measure"
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/9...chiefs-offense

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The Chiefs are actually 12th in the league in PPG, at 23.7. But if you take away the 14 points the defense is directly responsible for, that number drops to 19 PPG, which would be tied for 23rd - with the Raiders. The Chiefs are relying on the defense to score points, which isn't good. Defensive scoring is random and shouldn't be part of the game plan. They didn't need Tamba Hali's pick-6 to beat the Jaguars, but they did need Eric Berry's against the Eagles.

They also are just not moving the ball; their 333 yds/gm is 21st in the league and their 4.9 yds/play ranks 25th. "Well Kyle," you may ask, " if the Chiefs offense is so bad, how are they undefeated this year?" That's an excellent question, thank you for asking. The answer is that the defense and special teams are much, much better than we thought.
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The problem the Chiefs are having is getting to the Red Zone in the first place. They're 30th in yards per drive, with only Tampa Bay and Jacksonville behind them, and Cleveland directly in front of them (not good company to be in). This is a really, really bad offense. But here's the real kicker: the Chiefs' offense has the best starting field position in the NFL this year, and still can't score.
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The Chiefs average 17 yards per drive better field position than their opponents (ok, ok, 16.95), the best mark in the NFL (2nd table). Only two other teams average more than 10 yards better starting field position than their opponents (New England and Chicago). The Chiefs' average starting line of scrimmage (LOS) is their own 36.97 yard line (best in the NFL), while their opponents average starting LOS is their own 20.02 yard line (also best in the NFL). What all of that means is the Chiefs's offense is handed consistently great starting field position and can't do anything with it, then they let the special teams pin opponents deep in their own territory. The defense bails out the offense by not letting opponents move the ball, giving the offense the ball back with great starting field position. Lather, rinse, repeat.
There's a nice breakdown of our defense against philly over there as well:
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/9/2...p-kelly-eagles

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I have to reiterate and emphasize just how much the Chiefs played man to man -- like a ton of it. And they have the secondary to handle it, unlike most teams in the NFL. Specifically, they matched up Sean Smith on Cooper a lot on the outside. If this had been a prize fight, Cooper's corner would have thrown in the towel somewhere around the middle of the second quarter. Smith owned him right up until the end of the game when he started cramping up. Cooper just couldn't shake him, especially on those aforementioned deep routes Kelly had him running all game.
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Old 09-27-2013, 07:57 AM   #1111
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It's funny though. Any discussion about every QB but your own? and here flows the "legit reasons" for why it is this or that. Your own QB? "oh, it's nothing but excuses!"

Hypocrisy at its finest.
Except for the part where I said the offensive line has been particularly bad this year, and the several times I've mentioned the play calling.
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Old 09-27-2013, 07:57 AM   #1112
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Many of the names you listed were not putting up eye-popping stats on these SB runs. And I guess you are the only person that saw this volatile exchange from Reid to Smith? Reid yelled at Charles.. remember that for sure.. so should we believe that Charles' job is in jeopardy or that he is teh suxxorz?

This whole label of Franchise QB is obscure and subjective crap.

Bullshit, most of the QB's I listed carried their team most of the year and playoffs. You're just spouting statements without backing it up.
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Old 09-27-2013, 07:59 AM   #1113
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3 of those 5 guys you listed account for 5 recent SuperBowls.

You're a brilliant guy, eh?
Passer rating is more important than SuperBowls to Smiff fans. Get with the program asshole. Passer rating is life
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Old 09-27-2013, 08:03 AM   #1114
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is that also signed by the NYG fans that have QBs like Eli Manning, who is putting up a 53.3 and 49.0 passer rating lately? or Matt Stafford's delightful record of 1-23 against above opponents with a winning record? RG3 is sure taking the world by storm... Big Ben is doing wonderful things for Pitt right now.. Flacco has just been amazing with his 80 passer rating.
3 of those QBs wear Super Bowl rings. They are allowed a little leniency.
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3 of those QBs wear Super Bowl rings. They are allowed a little leniency.
Uh...yeah.
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Bullshit, most of the QB's I listed carried their team most of the year and playoffs. You're just spouting statements without backing it up.
because that takes too much ****ing work, to be honest. Anyone can pull up the stats to these guys and their SB years. I shouldn't have to feel obligated to do that menial work for you. Big Ben, Brady, Hasselbeck, Delhomme, probably a few others that put up good but not amazing numbers. Sick of all these glorified QBs that are beyond reproach from the kiddies... as if they were not silver-spooned into their development.
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Except for the part where I said the offensive line has been particularly bad this year, and the several times I've mentioned the play calling.
... but what generally follows that assessment?

The word, BUT....

as if the word BUT excuses all of that.

"Yeah, the OL sucks and KC is top 5 in dropped passes, BUT I am just not seeing enough of our QB to think he can ___________."

... and then you wonder why....
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Old 09-27-2013, 08:14 AM   #1118
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because that takes too much ****ing work, to be honest. Anyone can pull up the stats to these guys and their SB years. I shouldn't have to feel obligated to do that menial work for you. Big Ben, Brady, Hasselbeck, Delhomme, probably a few others that put up good but not amazing numbers. Sick of all these glorified QBs that are beyond reproach from the kiddies... as if they were not silver-spooned into their development.
Yep. still making random statements, The SB winners including Bien have carried their teams in critical situations in the playoffs and beyond.

Plus, those players who won the SB are future HOFers outside of Flacco *currently*
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because that takes too much ****ing work, to be honest. Anyone can pull up the stats to these guys and their SB years. I shouldn't have to feel obligated to do that menial work for you. Big Ben, Brady, Hasselbeck, Delhomme, probably a few others that put up good but not amazing numbers. Sick of all these glorified QBs that are beyond reproach from the kiddies... as if they were not silver-spooned into their development.
So in other words, you just want to have license to spew bullshit, hoping no one takes the effort to do some research and prove you wrong.

What a ****ing clown.
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So in other words, you just want to have license to spew bullshit, hoping no one takes the effort to do some research and prove you wrong.

What a ****ing clown.
well then, prove it wrong. I don't much care. I am sure you will grab YOUR bag of excuses to defense every QB alive or dead except your own QB. Have fun with that!

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is that also signed by the NYG fans that have QBs like Eli Manning, who is putting up a 53.3 and 49.0 passer rating lately? or Matt Stafford's delightful record of 1-23 against above opponents with a winning record? RG3 is sure taking the world by storm... Big Ben is doing wonderful things for Pitt right now.. Flacco has just been amazing with his 80 passer rating.
Only a pure goddam moron would prefer alex to any one of those guys.
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Old 09-27-2013, 08:28 AM   #1122
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NO THATS JUST ALEX SMITH BEING EFFICIENT

IF THE DEFENDING IS GOOD THEN THE OFFENSE IS SUPPOSED TO SUCK

ANDY REID VANILLA OFFENSE DOESN'T WANT TO GIVE AWAY SUPER TOP SECRET PLAYS

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It's not a defense for the offense, but in the Dallas game alone Smith had 4 balls dropped by his receivers on 3rd down that would have been 1st down completions. You can spread the blame on offense around to everyone though. The line has struggled, they haven't gelled as a unit. Lack of a push and the ability to consistently rush between the tackles. Pass protection is shakey and inconsistent.

Smith's lack of vertical passing, and holding onto the ball too long sometimes. We can't seem to keep any of our TE's healthy- and that seems to be Smith's security blanket.
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OMG WE DON'T HAVE SHIELDS, GRUNDGART, AND ROAF ETC. WE JUST CAN'T PLAY FOOTBALL CORRECTLY FOR ALEX SMITH, OH WOE IS US!

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