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05-31-2012, 07:51 PM | #106 |
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Yeah, but did you kick her in the stomach for smoking? That's what a real ninja would have done.
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05-31-2012, 07:54 PM | #107 | |
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05-31-2012, 07:56 PM | #108 |
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05-31-2012, 07:57 PM | #109 |
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05-31-2012, 08:01 PM | #110 |
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yes! We must absolutely assume the worst about somebody doing something we dont' like!
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That is not to say that there isn't a health risk. It is the DEGREE of unhealthiness that is being overblown. Let's look at the MAJOR concern. You are replacing oxygen with carbon monoxide.. that isn't healthy for the baby. No one disputes this. Now, let's look at carbon monoxide intake in a city like Los Angeles. Let's go a step further. A cab driver in LA takes in about the same carbon monoxide as a moderate smoker (less then a pack a day). Why aren't you up in arms about pregnant cabbies in LA? Pregnant bus drivers? I could go on and on if you cared to actually listen and look at the science. |
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05-31-2012, 08:10 PM | #112 |
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If I went up to 100 women in the same situation, I guarantee 95 of them would be consistent smokers. I like those odds, so I will continue to feel that way. If they feel I'm being judgmental, tough ****.
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05-31-2012, 08:11 PM | #113 | |
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I'm finding it REALLY hard to believe that you are actually a med school student. You would surely have been taught to scrutinize research and consider deficiencies. Specifically, you would have been taught the deficiencies of human research (no laboratory settings due to ethics issues). Human research that is conducted outside of a controlled environment is riddled with variables. Surely you have been taught to think independently and approach things skeptically... surely. PS: this n00b informed me he is a med school student in a rep comment, which means we must bow to his brain-power |
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05-31-2012, 08:13 PM | #114 |
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I feel pretty confident that you can't back that up, so I'm fine with you continuing to feel that way.
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05-31-2012, 08:25 PM | #115 |
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05-31-2012, 08:28 PM | #116 | |
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And it isn't simply about carbon monoxide intake. It's about CO intake during a critical period of development. Since the fetus gets oxygen via maternal blood circulation, it will directly affect the O2 and CO levels available to the fetus. Fetal hemoglobin has a much higher affinity for it's substrate (usually O2, but in this case CO). CO also has a greater affinity to both maternal and fetal hemoglobin, so it binds at a much higher rate than O2. Thus, CO is going to bind at a relatively high rate to fetal hemoglobin. If CO is competitively inhibiting O2 to a vital organ, such as the brain, you run the risk of having a congenital abnormality. To your cabbie point, yes, I agree that's not a good environment for a mother. But smoking is avoidable. Earning a livelihood is not. I have a hard time scolding somebody for making a living in circumstances that are beyond their control. |
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05-31-2012, 08:33 PM | #117 | |
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05-31-2012, 08:37 PM | #118 |
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OR we see a pregnant woman smoking a cigarette and we say "what a dumbass bitch, doesn't she know she is probably harming her unborn child?" Truth is she probably doesn't care that she has a real chance of harming her unborn child, I say as long as my tax dollars don't go to providing long term health care to this unborn child then it isn't my problem.
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05-31-2012, 08:49 PM | #119 |
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http://www.webmd.com/baby/news/20090...regnancy-risks
Obese Women More Likely to Have Babies With Birth Defects, Study Shows By Kathleen Doheny WebMD Health News Reviewed by Louise Chang, MD Feb. 10, 2009 -- Women who are obese during pregnancy have a higher risk than normal-weight women of having babies with certain birth defects, including neural tube defects such as spina bifida, heart problems, and cleft palate and lip, according to a new review. "It is important to note that birth defects are a rare event and occur in 2%-4% of pregnancies, so the risk remains very low," says Judith Rankin, PhD, a study co-author and a reader in material and perinatal epidemiology at the University of Newcastle in England. "The last thing we want to do is scare women.” Rather, the goal is to inform them, she says, and to encourage women who are obese to get preconception counseling about weight loss. The new report, published in this week's Journal of the American Medical Association, is a review of previously published work. Rankin and her colleagues culled the medical literature, pooled the results of 18 studies, and reviewed the findings of 39 other studies to determine if the association between obesity and birth defects still held up. It did. Obesity & Birth Defects: The Study Rankin's team undertook the study because of the growing problem of obesity in women of childbearing age. In the U.S., one-third of women 15 and older are obese, the authors note, and those numbers are expected to rise. "This is a very important public health issue given the growing numbers of women who are obese at the start of pregnancy," says Rankin, who notes that obesity is also increasing in the U.K. Obesity & Birth Defects: Results In the new analysis, women who were obese before pregnancy or in early pregnancy had a significantly increased risk of having a baby with birth defects. The risks differed for specific problems.
More research is needed to determine if the link between excess weight and birth defects holds for overweight women. "There isn't the same amount of research evidence for overweight as there is for obesity,'' Rankin says. Obesity & Birth Defects: Explaining the Link Exactly how obesity increases birth defect risk isn't known, but the researchers offer possible explanations.
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05-31-2012, 08:53 PM | #120 |
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I saw a overweight pregnant women drinking a Mt Dew today. I think I'll go on Facebook and express my outrage.
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