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This worries me. A huge part of the SEC advantage is the ability to out kick your coverage when it comes to landing a coach. If Arkansas can grab the three-time defending B1G champion coach, what can Mizzou land? I want to make coaches like Chip Kelly tell us no before promoting from within.
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10-21-2013, 09:29 PM | #2105 | |
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10-22-2013, 08:33 AM | #2107 |
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10-22-2013, 08:47 AM | #2108 | |
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10-22-2013, 09:19 AM | #2109 | |
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He's a surprisingly innovative guy for being something of a crusty old football guy. He'd have been well ahead of the curve on social media in the SEC. He's become more and more of a player's coach as he's been around. He's changed from a defense first coach to an offensively minded guy that's changed offensive emphasis 2 or 3 times now. He's not as stubborn in terms of his philosophy as so many paint him. My problem with him has always been his loyalty to failed guys. Refusing to move on from Eberflus or Yost. Bringing in family and long-time friends for key coaching roles. Things like that breed a culture of complacency and I think that's why you see us lagging now in recruiting somewhat. Pinkel's a smart football guy that's actually quite adept at changing with the times. I just get frustrated by watching us retain shitty guys or pass on good ones because he won't cut the cord. As for some of the rest of the disingenuous horse-shit that's polluted the last couple of pages of this thread, if you were still gung-ho over Gary Pinkel heading into this season, you weren't paying attention. He was getting negative recruited to death over the DUI incident, his coaches were simply being outworked during the off-season and his attention to detail had slipped noticeably, as was evident by the fact that our players started to get into trouble more often. Gary Pinkel absolutely earned his hot seat and it had very little to do with a down record last season. It was a bunch of stuff surrounding the program that 'bout cost him his job. Guys like Pitt are going full Wickedson with this bullshit; waiting until after the fact to start calling people out is just garbage, especially when you've mis-characterized people's concerns or acted like they were made up from whole cloth. Gary Pinkel's job was deservedly on the line this season. Had he gone out there and continued to get out-worked both during the recruiting season and on gamedays, he'd have deserved to get canned. Had his hand-picked OC not been as good as it appears he is (or had Yost still been around), then Pinkel would've put loyalty ahead of talent (again) and he'd have deserved to get canned. But it appears he made a very good decision on Henson. He's also gotten the discipline issues back under control. He's essentially back where he was 3 years ago before he let himself get sidetracked by the conference stuff (and maybe rest on his laurels a bit). As such, there's no reason to let him go. He earned his retention and some extra rope. But he doesn't get to be coach for life here. Get another DUI and watch the program fall because of loyalty hires and shitty discipline, and yeah, I'll call for his ouster again.
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His defenses at Mizzou have never really been good. They've been "good enough" some years playing with big leads behind a strong offense a la '07 but that's about as good as he's been able to do. Basically mediocre at best. This year for all the sacks and turnovers it's currently 50th in the nation in total defense, 7th in the SEC in a down year for the league defensively, up from the mid 80s after their dominant performance Sat. The relative weakness being in the secondary of which Fla was ill equipped to expose. What do people generally think of as his best defenses here? 2010? 47th in the country in total defense. 2007? 59th in the country in total defense. I looked up '03 and '11 and it goes down from there. ************************ It was an overall excellent post that was the only comment I had issue w/.
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Fair point - I was referring mostly to the 2001-2004 seasons when he appeared to be trying to build a ball-control team around guys like Brad Smith and Zack Abron. He didn't really favor the shoot-outs; he wanted to keep the scores down and make some big plays on the ground to steal wins. It was 'defense first' in the same way that Reid's presently playing defense first. Andy will always be an offensive guy, but given his personnel, he's winning with his D. Pinkel had a similar look to him his first few years here.
Christensen really pushed the spread in 2005, then when Daniel left and the pure spread stopped working Pinkel tried a goofy hybrid style spread under Yost. This year isn't even a spread offense as much as it's just a shotgun style offense with some damn good WRs. The blocking is more conventional, the routes and reads are more conventional. It bares very little resemblance to the spread we ran under Christensen. Which is good - Yost tried to make a Franken-spread using what he thought he knew from the previous offense and adding to it. Alas, he just didn't get it and it was clearly a mess. Henson almost hitting the re-set button was a necessary development.
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We're up at the top of the conference in just about every defensive category for SEC conference play:
Scoring defense: 23.7 ppg That's good enough for third behind Bama and Florida Rush defense: 117.67 ypg That's second in the conference behind Bama at 117.25 ypg. That's a difference of less than half a yard. We're first in conference play giving up 3.53 yards per rush. Pass defense: 240 ypg Good enough for 7th in the conference. Right in the middle. However, we're second to Florida in yards per attempt at 6.3 and third in QB rating against at 119.98. Total defense: 4th at 357.7 ypg. However, just like passing defense, we're second to Florida in yards per attempt at 4.99 yards per play. We're the only two teams giving up less than 5 yards per play. Third down defense: 1st at 30%. Yeap, we're first at stopping the other team on third downs in conference play. Third down defense always seems our biggest weakness to me, but we're doing a great job so far. Sacks per game: 1st at 5 sacks a game. Georgia is second at 3.2 sacks per game. Which leads us to... T/O margin: 1st at +2 a game. In three conference games we've taken the ball away eight times and given it to the other team twice. Three teams are tied for second at +1 a game. Tackles for loss per game: 2nd with 7.33 TFL a game. First is Auburn at 7.5 |
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