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BigCatDaddy · 10-30-2013, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

They can't yet, it's only week 8.

Right! I think he needs to look at Brees first year in New Orleans and how long it took for him to gel with the new team

NinerDoug · 10-30-2013, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

So now the excuse is back to "they need time to gel". How much time do they need so that we can all adequately judge them?

You don't need excuses for winning. If you lose a few, that's the time to talk excuses.

Back in the Nolan Singletary days, there were games when Alex had good stats, and we lost anyway. The talk then was "no moral victories, W's are all that count."

Trent Dilfer has a ring. No excuses necessary.

**Bearcat** · 10-30-2013, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

So now the excuse is back to "they need time to gel". How much time do they need so that we can all adequately judge them?

Exactly... after the Giants game it was "we told you, they just needed time to gel!"

Didn't seem like Keenum needed time to gel in his first NFL game... he was throwing 20+ yards down field, and if I didn't know any better, I'd think that was more of a mid-season thing for a 9 year vet, according to this thread..... certainly not something a rookie can do in his first game. Of course, if you ask others though, a 1.1 QB should be capable of doing it... I guess it's easier to train a n00b than replace all of those bad habits of an 8 year vet, or something.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 10-30-2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Right! I think he needs to look at Brees first year in New Orleans and how long it took for him to gel with the new team

Brees is a top 3 QB in the NFL. Why would you use him? No one here thinks Alex is a top 10 QB.

**loochy** · 10-30-2013, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by NinerDoug

Trent Dilfer has a ring. No excuses necessary.

We also know that dilfer sucked and the Bucs would have been even better with a better QB

Mr. Plow · 10-30-2013, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Exactly... after the Giants game it was "we told you, they just needed time to gel!"

Didn't seem like Keenum needed time to gel in his first NFL game... he was throwing 20+ yards down field, and if I didn't know any better, I'd think that was more of a mid-season thing for a 9 year vet, according to this thread..... certainly not something a rookie can do in his first game. Of course, if you ask others though, a 1.1 QB should be capable of doing it... I guess it's easier to train a n00b than replace all of those bad habits of an 8 year vet, or something.

These are professionals, but each move is like starting over. They have to relearn how to play their position and damn if relearning QB with every move isn't tough. And the fact that no "gelling" can begin until the regular season starts really sucks for all those off season practices & preseason.

Mr. Plow · 10-30-2013, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by NinerDoug

You don't need excuses for winning. If you lose a few, that's the time to talk excuses.

Back in the Nolan Singletary days, there were games when Alex had good stats, and we lost anyway. The talk then was "no moral victories, W's are all that count."

Trent Dilfer has a ring. No excuses necessary.

Do you think Dilfer winning the ring was the rule or the exception to the rule?

BigCatDaddy · 10-30-2013, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Brees is a top 3 QB in the NFL. Why would you use him? No one here thinks Alex is a top 10 QB.

So the better the QB the quicker the gelling huh?

NinerDoug · 10-30-2013, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Do you think Dilfer winning the ring was the rule or the exception to the rule?

It was the rule for what can be done with a killer D and a merely competent QB.

Another thing that you want to consider is that Alex is a very conservative QB. He doesn't like to take chances, and he hasn't really faced any situations this season in which he had to take a lot of chances.

In the past, though, he has had to come from behind and has got the job done.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 10-30-2013, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

So the better the QB the quicker the gelling huh?

It's a whole lot quicker when you have top 3 stuff.

**Bearcat** · 10-30-2013, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

These are professionals, but each move is like starting over. They have to relearn how to play their position and damn if relearning QB with every move isn't tough. And the fact that no "gelling" can begin until the regular season starts really sucks for all those off season practices & preseason.

Complicated routes like "stop and go" require a lot of chemistry... it took me several weeks of flag football to get that one down. It took me 3 weeks alone to realize the instructions were for the receiver.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Do you think Dilfer winning the ring was the rule or the exception to the rule?

He stayed within the current century, so that's impressive. Weird how Dilfer's 12/25 153yd 1TD game didn't get him the MVP.

BigCatDaddy · 10-30-2013, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

It's a whole lot quicker when you have top 3 stuff.

What stuff?

ShowtimeSBMVP · 10-30-2013, 11:48 AM

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Mr. Plow · 10-30-2013, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Complicated routes like "stop and go" require a lot of chemistry... it took me several weeks of flag football to get that one down. It took me 3 weeks alone to realize the instructions were for the receiver.

**loochy** · 10-30-2013, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by NinerDoug

Another thing that you want to consider is that Alex is a very conservative QB. He doesn't like to take chances, and he hasn't really faced any situations this season in which he had to take a lot of chances.

I was a very conservative child. I didn't like to take chances, so I wouldn't ride a roller coaster for fear of barfing. I never really faced any situation as a child where I had to take those kind of chances.

But hey, I never barfed, right?

I was a very conservative teenager. I didn't like to take chances, so I wouldn't ask that hot girl out for fear of rejection. I never really faced any situation as a teenager where I had to take those kind of chances.

But hey, I never got rejected, right?

As you can see from the above narratives, there is another word that comes to mind that could be used interchangeably with "conservative."

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