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**BigRedChief** · 02:36 PM

2011 WS Championship
2012 one win from another WS
2013 two wins from another WS title
2014?

This is a franchise that has made the postseason 10 times in the last 14 seasons.
Reached three World Series in the last decade, and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.
Our new Manager has more post season experience than any other manager in baseball, except the Giants manager.
Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.
60 post season wins since 2004. 20+ wins more than any other team.
Only one of the last 14 seasons has been a losing one.

**BigRedChief** · 11-25-2013, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

He was not tied to PED's in 2013, it was 2012.

When he played like shit.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 11-25-2013, 08:51 PM

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-...-ped-penalties

Good Read and so true.

**BigRedChief** · 11-25-2013, 08:53 PM

Lineup fun

Carp 3B
Bourjols CF
Holliday LF
Craig RF
Molina C
Adams 1B
Peralta SS
Wong 2B
Pitcher

Swap out Bourjols and Peralta in the order and I'm cool with it also. If Wong hits .280 with a 350 OB% he should hit 2b because of the speed.

DJ's left nut · 11-25-2013, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Lineup fun

Carp 3B
Bourjols CF
Holliday LF
Craig RF
Molina C
Adams 1B
Peralta SS
Wong 2B
Pitcher

Swap out Bourjols and Peralta in the order and I'm cool with it also. If Wong hits .280 with a 350 OB% he should hit 2b because of the speed.

If he gives you a .350 OB%, I'd be tempted to hit him leadoff and move Carpenter to either the 2 hole or the 5 hole.

If you want lineup fun, try one where Bourjos builds on the momentum he established before getting hurt last year and becomes a legit top of the order hitter and Wong plays to his minor league numbers:

Bourjos (R)
Wong (L)
Holliday (R)
Craig (R)
Carpenter (L)
Molina (R)
Adams (L)
Peralta (R)

And you could let Bourjos and Wong do some serious running at the top of the order.

Granted, I'm being damn wishful there, but that lineup is vile and would be nearly impossible to pitch to. Especially in interleague play after we pick up Morse to DH for us

DJ's left nut · 11-25-2013, 09:10 PM

Our new CFer:

JIMP

**BigRedChief** · 11-25-2013, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Granted, I'm being damn wishful there, but that lineup is vile and would be nearly impossible to pitch to. Especially in interleague play after we pick up Morse to DH for us

We are the best lineup on paper in the NL. When we regress to a more normal hitting with runners in scoring position the new lineup will help make up the difference.

O.city · 11-25-2013, 09:26 PM

Maybe it's just me, but it seems carpenter is a prototypical 2 hitter.

I dunno that Wong or bourjos can lead off, but if they could is rather see carp in te 2 hole

rolltide2014 · 11-25-2013, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Maybe it's just me, but it seems carpenter is a prototypical 2 hitter.

I dunno that Wong or bourjos can lead off, but if they could is rather see carp in te 2 hole

Totally agree. His doubles power would be much better suited in the 2-spot in the line-up. If either Wong or Bourjos can put up the OBP to justify hitting leadoff, this team is going to be lethal.

DJ's left nut · 11-25-2013, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolltide2014

Totally agree. His doubles power would be much better suited in the 2-spot in the line-up. If either Wong or Bourjos can put up the OBP to justify hitting leadoff, this team is going to be lethal.

His doubles power and contact skills are precisely why he's also perfectly suited to hit 5th or 6th. His bat control and contact skills make him a guy that would be without peer at getting that run in from 3b with less than two outs or the guy that turns a 1 run inning into a crooked number and a potential knockout blow.

Yes, he's great in the 2 hole, but if Wong and Bourjos both prove to be accomplished, top of the order style hitters, the lineup is better with Wong/Bourjos at the top and Carpenter in an RBI spot than it is with Carpenter batting 2 and Wong or Bourjos batting 8th ahead of the pitcher.

Swanman · 11-26-2013, 11:23 AM

I made the mistake of reading some comments about the Peralta signing on the Post Dispatch website. What a bunch of holier than thou douchenozzles. They make it sound like they are going to burn all their Cards gear just because Mo signed a guy that served a PEDS suspension.

George Liquor · 11-26-2013, 11:31 AM

People that post on STLToday are a bunch of jackasses.

**BigRedChief** · 11-26-2013, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDj23

People that post on STLToday are a bunch of jackasses.

Reminds me of the Star website in the early 2000's.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-26-2013, 07:38 PM

I have never found a Cardinal site worth a shit. VEB has great analysis in their articles, but the comments section is full of intolerable twats.

There was some forum RamsFan directed me to, but I got banned after like 20 posts because I argued with someone. I've only perused the Dispatch comments section occasionally, but I've heard it's absolutely noxious.

DJ's left nut · 11-26-2013, 07:43 PM

I have a board I've posted at since the late 90s.

The registration process can be a little annoying because I think they only accept emails from certain domains (I think gmail works but I'm not sure Yahoo does, for instance). If anyone's interested, I can PM you the details and you can peruse to see if you want to post.

It's a bunch of pretty knowledgeable guys; less romper room than the PD and, IMO, far more baseball oriented.

There's nothing anything remotely resembling CP, though. This place probably peaked around 150 active members a decade or so ago. It's smaller now but the folks there really know their shit.

Rams Fan · 11-26-2013, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I have never found a Cardinal site worth a shit. VEB has great analysis in their articles, but the comments section is full of intolerable twats.

There was some forum RamsFan directed me to, but I got banned after like 20 posts because I argued with someone. I've only perused the Dispatch comments section occasionally, but I've heard it's absolutely noxious.

The board which I referred you to is completely different from CP. Any shit talking that's done here would be an instaban there.

It's still a pretty good board, though. Baseball talk is statistical and you don't have to go through any shit like you do at the STL Today forum. One downside, though, is that the social threads seem to be lacking as opposed to here.

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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7669572	I have never found a Cardinal site worth a shit. VEB has great analysis in their articles, but the comments section is full of intolerable twats. There was some forum RamsFan directed me to, but I got banned after like 20 posts because I argued with someone. I've only perused the Dispatch comments section occasionally, but I've heard it's absolutely noxious. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $1179099	I have a board I've posted at since the late 90s. The registration process can be a little annoying because I think they only accept emails from certain domains (I think gmail works but I'm not sure Yahoo does, for instance). If anyone's interested, I can PM you the details and you can peruse to see if you want to post. It's a bunch of pretty knowledgeable guys; less romper room than the PD and, IMO, far more baseball oriented. There's nothing anything remotely resembling CP, though. This place probably peaked around 150 active members a decade or so ago. It's smaller now but the folks there really know their shit. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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