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Old 12-16-2013, 10:59 AM  
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RGIII Benched because he is Black? Michael Irvin...
There has been no shortage of controversy surrounding Mike Shanahan’s decision to bench Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III for the rest of the season. Between speculation that Shanahan is intentionally trying to get himself fired and reports that RG3 is furious, the situation has turned into a full-blown circus. And now, Michael Irvin has attempted to introduce the race element.

During halftime of Thursday Night Football, Irvin and the rest of the NFL Network panel discussed the mess in Washington. Deion Sanders said he thought RG3 “needed a little humble pie.” Irvin basically said the Redskins wouldn’t be handling the situation the same way if they had a white quarterback.

“You are tearing him down,” Irvin ranted, via Dan Steinberg of DC Sports Bog. “I doubt that any man can come back from this, walking around three weeks around these guys that you have to lead. And I don’t want to hear about teammates either; we understand as teammates and players, quarterbacks do get special treatment.

“You don’t see people arguing when Peyton Manning or Tom Brady gets (special treatment) — I don’t want you arguing when this kid gets it. He’s the quarterback, and the rest of us brothers have to understand that and treat him as such. I’ve got an issue with all of it. … You think they could do this to Andrew Luck? Let me ask you that, you think they could do this to Luck?”

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Old 12-16-2013, 11:42 AM   #31
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I hate hate hate the race card in QB discussions.

But I've found the treatmentof RGIII to be dubious at best, to be honest. There have been a handful of times where I've flipped to an analysis of Griffin without hearing the beginning of the conversation and could tell immediately it was him they were talking about because of the kind of vaguely dismissive language they used.

I mean they tend to stop short of saying 'boy', but it sure gets close at times.

My first reaction is always to dismiss this kind of bitching. And I agree he wouldn't be getting treated like this if he was performing better - his poor play is the root cause of the issue. But I do think there is some truth to the fact that he's getting a little more of the 'this kid needs to learn his place and shut up' treatment because he's a black QB. Wilson isn't getting crap because he's a minority that's playing extremely well. But I do wonder if a guy like Luck or Tannehill would be taking these kinds of arrows had they struggled like RGIII has. Tannehill's locker room has been a complete cluster!@#$ and we don't hear people blasting his leadership.

In this particular instance, I do think it's fair to ask if there haven't been some racial overtones to some of the things said about RGIII. Is that why he was benched? Nah, I don't think Shanahan's a racist. But I do think his PR has been disproportionally negative because of it.
Recently I saw RGIII being called a prima donna and I wondered where that came from. How many QBs are called that? Rivers I guess but the media just spins that into his 'fire to win.' WRs often gets called divas...guess it's better than calling them "uppity."

PS: and Cam's bad attitude. I may just be looking at this with blinders, but what white QBs get called for attitude? Ryan Leaf??? OK, Cutler for sure.
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Old 12-16-2013, 11:45 AM   #32
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RGIII is no Russell Wilson.
Put RG3 on that Seahawks team with Carroll as his head coach and they'd still be where they are.
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Old 12-16-2013, 11:45 AM   #33
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Now I'm sure I'm right.

You must be tuned into the secret code words that cover for the seething hate for the black QB's…or something.
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Old 12-16-2013, 11:48 AM   #34
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Is he? Or does the media cherry pick his comments and release speculative reports to push this narrative?

Why would the media have a narrative that supports the idea that black QBs are just not up to the job
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This is all Shanahan's ploy for another job, when he gets fired he has to say RGIII wasn't his guy and that was a Snyder move.
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Why would the media have a narrative that supports the idea that black QBs are just not up to the job
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Why would the media have a narrative that supports the idea that black QBs are just not up to the job
It sells.

The media, as you may have noticed, is sensationalist. They write what sells.
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Maybe it has more to do with RGIII not getting it done.


Cousins put up 380 yards and 3TDs yesterday.
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Maybe it has more to do with RGIII not getting it done.


Cousins put up 380 yards and 3TDs yesterday.
Against one of the worst defenses in the league AND he blew the ****ing game.
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Recently I saw RGIII being called a prima donna and I wondered where that came from. How many QBs are called that? Rivers I guess but the media just spins that into his 'fire to win.' WRs often gets called divas...guess it's better than calling them "uppity."

PS: and Cam's bad attitude. I may just be looking at this with blinders, but what white QBs get called for attitude? Ryan Leaf??? OK, Cutler for sure.
If Cutler was black he wouldn't even have a starting job in the NFL right now. He really isn't that good and he outwardly displays a shitty attitude.
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Shanny's actions with RG III have more to do with John Elway than they do with race...
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You know Cam?

Oh, right... you know what is reported about him. Cam was a young QB. He has to grow. The point is that this narrative seems to be saved exclusively for QB's who fit a certain criteria.
It's the same reason Bray is on our team now. These are young guys. People forget that we're asking 21-23 year old's to be the leadership of a multi million dollar business.

When they're productive QB's don't get called out on their bull$#it.

It's when they suck that guys like Cutler, Cam, Ruthlessrapist, and even Brady this year get talked about.
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...and RGIII really tore up the opponent the week before.


I think his problem is 3 fold. I think he came back too soon from his knee injury, he's suffering from a sophomore slump and teams have defended the zone read better this year, and I think he isn't putting in the time this year.
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It's the same reason Bray is on our team now. These are young guys. People forget that we're asking 21-23 year old's to be the leadership of a multi million dollar business.

When they're productive QB's don't get called out on their bull$#it.

It's when they suck that guys like Cutler, Cam, Ruthlessrapist, and even Brady this year get talked about.
None of those guys get the media attention that Cam and RGIII have received for their struggles.

Except Brady, and that was more because it was incongruent with what we've seen from him... and Ben when he was raping people every other weekend.

The narrative sure wasn't "They're a selfish me-first diva". Only QB's that fit a certain criteria get that label.
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Maybe it has more to do with RGIII not getting it done.


Cousins put up 380 yards and 3TDs yesterday.
This is also part of the false narrative... that Cousins is good. He turned the ball over 3 times in that game against a terrible defense.
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