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12-17-2013, 03:42 PM | #301 | |
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Re: the bolded, we have quite a lot of local/in our face evidence that the formula we saw before the bye week is not a formula that leads to postseason success very often in the modern NFL (and really "NEVER" without an all-time great defensive unit)
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12-17-2013, 03:43 PM | #302 | |
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I don't want to hear all the excuses again. I've heard them, now it's time to go out and perform against the big boys the next 3 weeks, hopefully longer. |
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12-17-2013, 03:43 PM | #303 | |
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His accuracy slump he was in that he pulled out of almost had me expecting failure on his part which is basically the difference in the two sides here. One expects him to Fail and be the reason we will not advance. The other expects him to continue his current level of play. |
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12-17-2013, 03:45 PM | #304 | |
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Did you know that, other than the Chiefs, the only team Peyton has beat this season, with a winning record, is Baltimore? |
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12-17-2013, 03:51 PM | #305 | |
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Petyon Manning = 15 years of dominance and HOF'er Alex Smith = 8 years of being up, down and all over the place including being benched multiple times and traded. Including a pretty shitty/medicore opening 8 games with the Chiefs(I think since he's improved off of that I can say this now without people jumping down my throat with 8-0) One guy has something to prove and one doesn't. Do you see the difference, TrueFanDave? |
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12-17-2013, 03:54 PM | #306 | |
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This is nuts. Its absolutely insane. The guy has a 65 game track record of being the exact same QB he's been in KC. If he goes out there and throws for 500 yards and kicks Manning's ass in the AFC Championship game HE'S NOT SUDDENLY A FRANCHISE QB! He's the same guy he was in the 65 games prior who had a really good game. Likewise, if the guy goes and plays a bad game, he's not suddenly Matt Cassel. Tying what you think about Alex Smith to a playoff outcome is just crazy. 1, 2 or 3 games in January do not carry more weight than 60+ games over 5 seasons prior. They just don't. Thinking that they do is exactly what got a team like the Jets married to Mark Sanchez. Realizing that they don't is exactly what led the Denver Broncos to Peyton Manning. Smith shouldn't be able to 'win you over' in the playoffs. It shouldn't be that easy to change your mind. You should be willing/able to look at what he's done as an NFL starting QB for half a decade and use that track record to draw your conclusions as to his long-term value to this franchise. That track record is pretty clear on its face and to me it shows a slightly above average NFL quarterback. Regardless of what happens in January, that's what he is.
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12-17-2013, 03:55 PM | #307 |
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Be damned if i can find the post, but Duncan Idaho, i completely disagree... anytime you win a playoff game it says something good about your quarterbacks play.
Maybe he doesn't even throw a touchdown, but if you win it means he didn't make a critical mistake, see; Romo and Stafford this weekend. A post like that tells me theres nothing that's going to sway your opinion of him, it sounds like a failsafe so that even if we win one, you can say "yeah we won, but it wasn't because of him". |
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12-17-2013, 03:56 PM | #308 | |
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12-17-2013, 03:58 PM | #309 | |
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Alex Smith = 5 years of having a 90 passer rating, 7 yards/attempt and a 2-1 TD to INT ratio. Smith's track record at this point is what it is. It's not as high a level as Mannings but it's no easier to discount. The guy has put together 5 years that, in aggregate, are as good as some of the 'elite' guys in this league but you still want to act like you can't trust 60+ nfl starts worth of data. That's absurd. The guy's last 4 seasons average out to almost exactly what he's done this season. At some point you have to accept that as a baseline and stop bitching about who he's not. He's not Peyton Manning and he never will be. He is, however, exactly who he's been for the last 5 seasons.
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12-17-2013, 03:59 PM | #310 | |
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12-17-2013, 04:00 PM | #311 |
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Trent Green and Alex are the only QB's in Chiefs history to have a perfect QB rating.
Alex completed 85% of his passes against the Fade-a Chiefs record. But yeah he sucks-lol |
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12-17-2013, 04:01 PM | #312 |
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BigCatDaddy is not nearly as bad as Clay, that is obvious. I do think he goes a bit too far in his "skepticism," but who am I to judge.
Clay, on the other hand, is just a troll and should be ignored. BCD - honest question. Do you truly want Alex Smith to succeed? If he wins a playoff game, a Super Bowl, is named MVP, becomes "elite" - that will mean your "formula" for obtaining a great QB will have been wrong. What is more important to you, your love of the Chiefs or your pride in being right? |
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12-17-2013, 04:01 PM | #313 | |
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Fortunately It's obvious to me that he is a MUCH better player now. And BTW. We have 15 years of tape of Manning choking in the playoffs even as recently as last season. |
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12-17-2013, 04:01 PM | #314 |
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And for the love of God, i'm just so tired of hearing about all of the awful, terrible teams we beat, so therefore those wins mean nothing... that is the craziest sounding shit to me.
Every team has talent and/or good coaching even if just at the positional level, every bad team beats a good team, every single week of every single year... there isn't a SINGLE gimme game in the NFL, particularly when talking about division rival games. The "he hasn't beaten anyone" line is absolutely maddening, there are no college teams in the NFL, every win counts... to me its 100% garbage. |
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