60 Minutes A-Rod Story

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Cochise

I agree. The only good thing about the whole story is that it cost A-Rod $25 million

Making this seemingly arbitrary decision of 162 games also saved the Yankees $25M. No surprise there.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Making this seemingly arbitrary decision of 162 games also saved the Yankees $25M. No surprise there.

What makes a 1 season ban arbitrary?

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

What makes a 1 season ban arbitrary?

Because their agreement with the players designates 50, 100, and lifetime suspensions for PED use. What the hell is 162 games based on (other than saving that $25M for the NYY and getting him out of baseball for a year for PR purposes)?

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Because their agreement with the players designates 50, 100, and lifetime suspensions for PED use. What the hell is 162 games based on (other than saving that $25M for the NYY and getting him out of baseball for a year for PR purposes)?

I am sure part of the suspension was about him going to great lengths to cover everything up. I bet the Commissioner has wide latitude in regards to that just like Goodell does.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I am sure part of the suspension was about him going to great lengths to cover everything up. I bet the Commissioner has wide latitude in regards to that just like Goodell does.

Which makes the 162 (and the 211 awarded that came before it) a completely arbitrary decision with no precedent.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Which makes the 162 (and the 211 awarded that came before it) a completely arbitrary decision with no precedent.

So was Braun's 65 game suspension

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

So was Braun's 65 game suspension

I agree. But that decision was a mutual one.

[Anyong Bluth]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Which makes the 162 (and the 211 awarded that came before it) a completely arbitrary decision with no precedent.

Originally Posted by dirk digler

So was Braun's 65 game suspension

Mediator - parties agreed to the decision, baseball gets him out for a year right away instead of dragging out the appeal process. A-roid avoids a lifetime ban or the longer suspension, and holds out hope.

Meanwhile he can play outside MLB to stay in shape, show teams what he still has left in the tank, and prays some team will take his brokeass on their 25 man roster.

With his bum hip, other various injuries, and off the juice, he's a prime candidate for being injury prone and declining numbers at the plate. He's already a bit of a liability in the field, and I hope no club even gives him a whiff of interest, so he can fall off the face of the Earth.

[The Rick]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Because their agreement with the players designates 50, 100, and lifetime suspensions for PED use. What the hell is 162 games based on (other than saving that $25M for the NYY and getting him out of baseball for a year for PR purposes)?

The 50, 100, and lifetime suspensions are for failed tests, I believe. A-Rod technically never failed a test, hence the non-standard suspension.

Braun's suspension was abnormal also because his suspension wasn't for a failed test (he beat that suspension). His was a plea deal, basically and that's what was agreed to.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by The Rick

The 50, 100, and lifetime suspensions are for failed tests, I believe. A-Rod technically never failed a test, hence the non-standard suspension.

So it was a completely arbitrary decision, yes.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

So it was a completely arbitrary decision, yes.

I thinks that means he has to play for the Royals next year... Woot!!!!!!!!!!!

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

So it was a completely arbitrary decision, yes.

Well to be fair, they have solid evidence that he used steroids in 2010, 2011, and 2012. We already know he used in 2001-2003. (We'll ignore the fact that he likely used every year of his entire career since there's no proof of it) If those last 3 were all positive tests, it would be a lifetime ban.

With the evidence that baseball uncovered, we don't need a positive test to ban A-Rod for one full season.

edit: apparently the commissioner's office broke it down this way, for 3 seperate and distinct violations: 50 games for testosterone, 50 games for IGF-1, 50 games for HGH, and they tacked on the last 12 for obstruction.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by alnorth

Well to be fair, they have solid evidence that he used steroids in 2010, 2011, and 2012. We already know he used in 2001-2003. (We'll ignore the fact that he likely used every year of his entire career since there's no proof of it) If those last 3 were all positive tests, it would be a lifetime ban.

With the evidence that baseball uncovered, we don't need a positive test to ban A-Rod for one full season.

edit: apparently the commissioner's office broke it down this way, for 3 seperate and distinct violations: 50 games for testosterone, 50 games for IGF-1, 50 games for HGH, and they tacked on the last 12 for obstruction.

There is no precedent for any of this. It's a completely arbitrary breakdown outside of the drug agreement the players made as part of the CBA (if you ignore the fact that it conveniently saves the NYY a full year of ARod's salary and keeps him away from baseball for a full year).