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Old 02-23-2014, 10:31 AM   #1
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No, he's not wrong on the value. I don't have a problem with Branden Albert. I think he's a solidly good Left Tackle.
So, let's review.

SNR is not wrong about Albert's value as a "solidly good" LT, IYO.
A "solidly good" LT is worth about 8 to 11 mil a year, IYO.

But Albert is not worth 8 to 11 mil a year, IYO.

Contradictory much?
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Old 02-23-2014, 10:45 AM   #2
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So, let's review.

SNR is not wrong about Albert's value as a "solidly good" LT, IYO.
A "solidly good" LT is worth about 8 to 11 mil a year, IYO.

But Albert is not worth 8 to 11 mil a year, IYO.

Contradictory much?
No, it's not contradictory. I think 8 to 11 mil a year is too much for a "solidly good" Left Tackle. Just as I thought 1.1 was a reach for a Left Tackle.

At least I'm being consistent. I think they're low positional value in terms of draft stock and compensation. You don't think it's a little strange that the same people who fought against picking a Left Tackle (largely because of positional value) are suddenly acting like Albert is unreplaceable?
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Old 02-23-2014, 12:21 PM   #3
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So, let's review.

SNR is not wrong about Albert's value as a "solidly good" LT, IYO.
A "solidly good" LT is worth about 8 to 11 mil a year, IYO.

But Albert is not worth 8 to 11 mil a year, IYO.

Contradictory much?
Is this gonna be on the midterm or final? I hate proofs, and if so, do we have to show all our work?
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Old 02-23-2014, 12:42 PM   #4
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Is this gonna be on the midterm or final? I hate proofs, and if so, do we have to show all our work?
I took a course in philosophical logic in college. The final exam was one question: "Prove that the earth is flat."

I can't remember the process I used or the symbols I used to interpret statements in the proof, but I got an A.
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Old 02-23-2014, 01:06 PM   #5
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I took a course in philosophical logic in college. The final exam was one question: "Prove that the earth is flat."

I can't remember the process I used or the symbols I used to interpret statements in the proof, but I got an A.
I would have drawn a crude treasure map, and labeled the edges of the earth or by shading designation. Mentioned this was a true to life, 3D map to portray actual topography.

Signed it By God, and turned it in. 5 minutes. Easy Peasy.
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Old 02-23-2014, 01:23 PM   #6
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I would have drawn a crude treasure map, and labeled the edges of the earth or by shading designation. Mentioned this was a true to life, 3D map to portray actual topography.

Signed it By God, and turned it in. 5 minutes. Easy Peasy.
We had to use written arguments coded in logical symbols. For the most part we only learned how to use syllogistic logic in one semester, so the exam was graded on validity, not necessarily being a valuable or a good argument. So for example, you could say "All German Shepherds are dogs. All dogs bark. Therefore, all German Shepherds bark." The proof would be:

G -> D (which means "If G, then D")
D -> B
G
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G -> B

That's a hugely simplistic example, and there are far more rules and logical syllogistic functions you can use, but yeah. That's basically what you're doing. Reasoning out why the world is flat in words, then showing validity by converting all the statements to symbols and then hashing it out in a proof.
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Old 02-23-2014, 01:38 PM   #7
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We had to use written arguments coded in logical symbols. For the most part we only learned how to use syllogistic logic in one semester, so the exam was graded on validity, not necessarily being a valuable or a good argument. So for example, you could say "All German Shepherds are dogs. All dogs bark. Therefore, all German Shepherds bark." The proof would be:

G -> D (which means "If G, then D")
D -> B
G
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G -> B

That's a hugely simplistic example, and there are far more rules and logical syllogistic functions you can use, but yeah. That's basically what you're doing. Reasoning out why the world is flat in words, then showing validity by converting all the statements to symbols and then hashing it out in a proof.
Formal logic was one of my favorite classes in college
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Old 02-23-2014, 01:54 PM   #9
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We had to use written arguments coded in logical symbols. For the most part we only learned how to use syllogistic logic in one semester, so the exam was graded on validity, not necessarily being a valuable or a good argument. So for example, you could say "All German Shepherds are dogs. All dogs bark. Therefore, all German Shepherds bark." The proof would be:

G -> D (which means "If G, then D")
D -> B
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That's a hugely simplistic example, and there are far more rules and logical syllogistic functions you can use, but yeah. That's basically what you're doing. Reasoning out why the world is flat in words, then showing validity by converting all the statements to symbols and then hashing it out in a proof.
Ya, I know I was just being too cool for school.
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I took a course in philosophical logic in college. The final exam was one question: "Prove that the earth is flat."

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