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Old 02-20-2014, 01:35 PM  
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2014 NFL Combine - Players - The WRs

Wide Receivers:

Jared Abbrederis, Wisconsin
6'1", 195 lb., 31 3/8" arms, 9 5/8" hands

Davante Adams, Fresno State
6'1", 212 lb., 32 5/8" arms, 9" hands

Odell Beckham, LSU
5'11 1/4", 198 lb., 32 3/4" arms, 10" hands

Kelvin Benjamin, Florida State
6'5", 240 lb., 34 7/8" arms, 10 1/4" hands

Christopher Boyd, Vanderbilt
6'4", 206 lb., 32 5/8" arms, 9 3/8" hands

Philly Brown, Ohio State
5'11", 178 lb., 31 3/4" arms, 9 3/8" hands

John Brown, Pittsburg State
5'11", 179 lb., 30 1/2" arms, 8 1/2" hands

Martavis Bryant, Clemson
6'3 1/2", 211 lb., 32 5/8" arms, 9 1/2" hands

Isaiah Burse, Fresno State
5'10", 188 lb., 30 1/4" arms, 8 3/8" hands

Michael Campanaro, Wake Forest
5'9", 192 lb., 30" arms, 9 3/4" hands

Brandon Coleman Rutgers
6'6", 225 lb., 34" arms, 9 1/4" hands

Kain Colter, Northwestern
5'10", 198 lb., 31" arms, 10" hands

Brandin Cooks, Oregon State
5'9 1/2", 189 lb., 30 1/2" arms, 9 5/8" hands

Damian Copeland, Louisville
5'11", 184 lb., 31 3/8" arms, 9" hands

Mike Davis, Texas
6'0", 197 lb., 32 3/4" arms, 10" hands

Bruce Ellington, South Carolina
5'9 1/4", 197 lb., 31" arms, 9 5/8" hands

Quincy Enunwa, Nebraska
6'2", 225 lb., 32 5/8" arms, 9 1/2" hands

Mike Evans, Texas A&M
6'4 1/2", 231 lb., 35 1/8" arms, 9 5/8" hands

Shaq Evans, UCLA
6'1", 213 lb., 32" arms, 9 3/8" hands

Bennie Fowler, Michigan State
6'1", 217 lb., 32" arms, 9 3/8" hands

Austin Franklin, New Mexico State
5'11", 189 lb., 31 1/4" arms, 10" hands

Jeremy Gallon, Michigan
5'7", 185 lb., 29 1/2" arms, 9 3/8" hands

Ryan Grant, Tulane
6'0", 199 lb., 31" arms, 9 5/8" hands

Matt Hazel, Coastal Carolina
6'1", 198 lb., 31 2/8" arms, 9 1/8" hands

Robert Herron, Wyoming
5'9", 193 lb., 30 1/2" arms, 9 3/4" hands

Cody Hoffman, BYU
6'4", 223 lb., 33 1/4" arms, 9 3/4" hands

Josh Huff, Oregon
5'11", 206 lb., 31 1/4" arms, 9 3/8" hands

Allen Hurns, Miami (FL)
6'1", 198 lb., 32" arms, 9 1/4" hands

Jeff Janis, Saginaw Valley State
6'3", 219 lb., 32 1/2" arms, 9" hands

T.J. Jones, Notre Dame
6'0", 188 lb., 30 5/8" arms, 10" hands

Jarvis Landry, LSU
5'11 1/4", 198 lb., 31 1/4" arms, 10 1/4" hands

Cody Latimer, Indiana
6'2", 215 lb., 32 5/8" arms, 9 5/8" hands

Marqise Lee, USC
5'11 1/2", 192 lb., 31 1/4" arms, 9 1/2" hands

Marcus Lucas, Missouri
6'4", 218 lb., 33 5/8" arms, 9 3/8" hands

Jordan Matthews, Vanderbilt
6'3", 212 lb., 33 1/4" arms, 10 3/4" hands

Donte Moncrief, Mississippi
6'2", 221 lb., 32 2/8" arms, 9 1/8" hands

Kevin Norwood, Alabama
6'2", 198 lb., 32 1/8" arms, 10" hands

Walt Powell, Murray State
5'11", 189 lb., 31 5/8" arms, 9 1/2" hands

Tevin Reese, Baylor
5'10", 163 lb., 31 5/8" arms, 8 5/8" hands

Paul Richardson, Colorado
6'0", 175 lb., 32 5/8" arms, 8 7/8" hands

Allen Robinson, Penn State
6'2 1/4", 220 lb., 32" arms, 9 1/2" hands

Jalen Saunders, Oklahoma
5'9", 163 lb., 30" arms, 8 7/8" hands

Willie Snead, Ball State
5'11", 195 lb., 31" arms, 10 1/4" hands

Josh Stewart, Oklahoma State
5'10", 178 lb., 30" arms, 9 3/8" hands

Devin Street, Pittsburgh
6'3", 198 lb., 33 2/8" arms, 9 1/4" hands

L'Damian Washington, Missouri
6'4", 195 lb., 33 3/8" arms, 9" hands

Sammy Watkins, Clemson
6'0 1/2", 211 lb., 32" arms, 9 5/8" hands

Albert Wilson, Georgia State
5'9", 202 lb., 30 3/8" arms, 9 1/8" hands


2013 Top WR Drafted & Combine Results:

Tavon Austion, West Virginia
5'8", 174 lb., 30" arms, 9 1/8" hands
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Old 02-23-2014, 05:37 PM   #16
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cooks, Cooks, COOKS... a guy like that can get open against anyone.

You don't have to be big when you're OPEN.
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Old 02-23-2014, 05:37 PM   #17
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He would almost be better as a TE in the NFL.
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My point as well a few threads back, he could be the next Jimmy Graham and actually play hybrid TE/WR depending on the situation.
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Old 02-23-2014, 05:43 PM   #18
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cooks, Cooks, COOKS... a guy like that can get open against anyone.

You don't have to be big when you're OPEN.
He is definitely my guy as well if we draft a WR in the first. If you haven't seen his gauntlet drill you need to watch it. Lightening quick, clean catches never losing speed in a straight line and when he turns it up field he never misses a beat showing you he has a 6th gear if needed.

Natural hands.

This guy replaces McCluster IMO.
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Old 02-23-2014, 05:45 PM   #19
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cooks, Cooks, COOKS... a guy like that can get open against anyone.

You don't have to be big when you're OPEN.
He sucked against the only good corner that he lined up against. Watch his snaps vs Ekpre Olamu, he got 0 separation against him and only did something against Oregon when he was lined up away from Olamu. Cooks is going to kill as a Slot WR, but don't expect him to become a #1 outside guy and replace Bowe. He just doesn't have the size to do it.
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Old 02-23-2014, 05:47 PM   #20
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I don't really like Benjamin all that much. For a guy with his measurables, he doesn't high point the ball consistently enough, he drops too many passes, and he took a long time to do anything in Florida State despite playing with 2 NFL Starting caliber QBs his entire college career and on a team that doesn't really have any outstanding WRs besides Green. Makes me question his dedication and football IQ a lot. If he had produced consistently for at least 2 seasons there would be some merit to him being selected in the 1st round of this draft class; but he's just too risky to be taken that highly especially with the depth of talent at WR and across the board this year. I honestly don't think that he is any better than Brandon Coleman out of Rutgers. Benjamin isn't very explosive and won't be able to create the separation that you would want out of your WRs. For a big WR to succeed in the NFL, they have to display dominant hands and the ability to absolutely dominate at the point of the catch. Evans has it, Benjamin doesn't. That's why the league isn't filled with a ton of 6'5" + big bodied WRs and instead has an overwhelming amount of 5'10"-6'1", 180-215 pound WRs who can create separation with their quickness, route running, and speed instead. Not a lot of really big Wrs are actually truly dominant at the point of the catch.

Want Benjamin? Go sign Ramses Barden who has been in the league for 4 years and has done absolutely nothing.

I say that Benjamin doesn't go until rounds 2-3. He's not a 1st rounder, especially not in this draft class.
Because all tall big WRs are the next Ramses Barden lol. Evans couldn't break from a route to save his life today. Benjamin is a monster.
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Old 02-23-2014, 05:54 PM   #21
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He is definitely my guy as well if we draft a WR in the first. If you haven't seen his gauntlet drill you need to watch it. Lightening quick, clean catches never losing speed in a straight line and when he turns it up field he never misses a beat showing you he has a 6th gear if needed.

Natural hands.

This guy replaces McCluster IMO.
It might even turn out that we don't have to go #1 with him, teams are going to turn up their nose due to size... of all the highlight vids I watched he was the clearcut sizzler, being able to stop and cut on a dime while maintaining top speed is priceless.

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He sucked against the only good corner that he lined up against. Watch his snaps vs Ekpre Olamu, he got 0 separation against him and only did something against Oregon when he was lined up away from Olamu. Cooks is going to kill as a Slot WR, but don't expect him to become a #1 outside guy and replace Bowe. He just doesn't have the size to do it.
Yaya... he had a bad game against some guy, again, stop and start ability while maintaining control and speed is golden... skill like that equals inherent "get open" ability.

I doubt he needs to be take #1 the way things are looking anyway... disagree if you must, but its my opinion that Smith would LOVE a guy like this... he IS going to be able to shake his man for that half second more often than not thus creating a clean and safe throw.
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Old 02-23-2014, 06:12 PM   #22
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It might even turn out that we don't have to go #1 with him, teams are going to turn up their nose due to size... of all the highlight vids I watched he was the clearcut sizzler, being able to stop and cut on a dime while maintaining top speed is priceless.



Yaya... he had a bad game against some guy, again, stop and start ability while maintaining control and speed is golden... skill like that equals inherent "get open" ability.

I doubt he needs to be take #1 the way things are looking anyway... disagree if you must, but its my opinion that Smith would LOVE a guy like this... he IS going to be able to shake his man for that half second more often than not thus creating a clean and safe throw.
You could take Archer in the 4th and get the same start and stop ability with even more top end speed while taking a potential #1 WR in round 1. This draft is full of good slot guys, no need to spend our only pick in the top 70 on one.
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my favorite Wr for our first pick at this point would be Jordan Matthews. unmatched production and great speed for his size. he has superstar potential as a number 1 WR. liked cook's production, but lets be honest, he doesn't catch anywhere near that amount of balls in the sec. I like him as much as beckham but I feel they're both pretty limited to the the slot, or can play #2 with a true #1 wide out on the opposite side. Matthews reminds me of his cousin jerry rice. he might not be the flashiest Wr but he produces game in and game out, year in and year out.
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Old 02-23-2014, 06:21 PM   #24
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Best 40 times for WRs, including a WR from Pitt State.

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A bad ass WR from Pitt State....
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Old 02-23-2014, 06:22 PM   #25
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my favorite Wr for our first pick at this point would be Jordan Matthews. unmatched production and great speed for his size. he has superstar potential as a number 1 WR. liked cook's production, but lets be honest, he doesn't catch anywhere near that amount of balls in the sec. I like him as much as beckham but I feel they're both pretty limited to the the slot, or can play #2 with a true #1 wide out on the opposite side. Matthews reminds me of his cousin jerry rice. he might not be the flashiest Wr but he produces game in and game out, year in and year out.
Beckham has just enough size to develop into a #1. He has pretty good length due to his long arms and big hands to be able to make the tough catches. He's going to go ahead of our pick though, I don't see the Jets passing on him if Evans and Watkins are gone. I think they would take Beckham over Ebron in all honesty.
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Moncrief is explosive as hell, especially for his size, but has a lot of bad tape from last season. He literally looks nonchalant at times, just like Bowe. Doesn't look interested in blocking at all, showed no tenacity or drive to dominate his opponents. I worry about his will to become great. Has all the physical tools, just don't think that the drive is there.
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I think both Moncrief and Abbrederis could help the Chiefs, but I would prefer Abbrederis.

Donte Moncrief, Mississippi – 6 catch, 122 yards, 2 TD against Auburn. 5 catch, 107 yards against LSU. 7 catch, 149 yards, 1 TD. 6 catch, 115 yards against Missouri. 6 catch, 113 yards, 1 TD against Georgia Tech.

Jared Abbrederis – 10 catches, 207 yards, 1 TD against Ohio State’s Bradley Roby. 2 catches, 122 yards, 2 TDs against Massachusetts. 6 catch, 87 yards against Arizona State. 7 catch, 94 yards against Purdue. 8 catch, 106 yards against Illinois. 12 catch, 135 yards against Penn State. He had a total of 78 receptions, 1081 yards, and 7 TDs in 2013. He had 49 receptions, 837 yards, 5 TDs in 2012. Also, in 2012, 43 punt returns, 315 yards, 1 TD.
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Old 02-24-2014, 04:10 AM   #28
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BTW, look out for Albert Wilson in the 5th to 6th round. Real burner and could be a great slot guy.
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Cooks is going to kill as a Slot WR, but don't expect him to become a #1 outside guy and replace Bowe. He just doesn't have the size to do it.
Precisely my point. This guy will make Welker look slow in acceleration back in Welker's prime but with actual top end speed Welker never had. Agreed he is not a dominant No.1 but I will take a Welker on ROIDs any day
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Precisely my point. This guy will make Welker look slow in acceleration back in Welker's prime but with actual top end speed Welker never had. Agreed he is not a dominant No.1 but I will take a Welker on ROIDs any day
The thing with Cooks if you watch his tape, is he doesn't "look" like a Welker or Amendola type, doesn't play like a Dante Hall or Az-Zahir-Hakim type. Those guys, Welker included, had a specific way they used their bodies and caught the ball at different points on the field.

Cooks, on the other hand, is like a mixed bag. When he's outside the hash, he uses his body and catches the ball similar to Julio Jones, despite the immense size difference, its actually quite refreshing to watch, and I'm huge on Julio. Across the middle though, he plays like a Wayne Chrebet, which is high praise there.

I think in the right system with the right coaching with the right scheme, this kid could be absolutely dynamite!
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