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or Alex Smith playing shitty defenses? Alex Smith still performed well in games against shootout style QBs. Scoring points against offenses that would drive right down our swiss cheese career day defense and score in 20 seconds. So I would say our defense was an over inflated product against shitty QBs. It's a fraud defense. It was at one point statistically the #1 defense in the league, then fell off a cliff. Alex Smith remained at least consistent top 10 NFL QB on paper, in fantasy, and statistically. You will get consistent play out of Alex Smith in 2014, that's what he brings. The defense on the other hand, you have to wonder how long til the wheels fall off, again. Probably earlier in 2014 than in 2013. |
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If we pull off 1 starter, awesome. If most of those guys become quality depth, awesome. Nobody expects all 4 of these guys to be starters or pro bowlers. I guess I put a lot more value in quality depth than many might. |
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Look at Peyton Mannings surrounding cast.. Theres a guy you could say the same thing about then because most would argue he is quarterbacking the most talented roster in the NFL... Tom Brady? Would u say its his system? Who knows but cassell went 11-6 with them and then sh1t the bed in the nfl when he left the patriots.. Im pretty sure quarterbacks need some type of help in the NFL to succeed no matter who it is. |
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But in every generation, there are about 4 or 5. Not worth the gamble to assume you'll bring in a QB who can carry a team. In most cases, you have a Russell Wilson, Flacco, and Eli who are very good QBs but are better built for teams that have a lot of talent around them. |
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Why would recognizing the facts be idiocy? Ignoring them is being a blind idiot.
The impatience and intolerance over the years of the Chiefs fans have cemented the current strategy of being competitive and not risking failing at mediocrity to ownership. Anyone that thinks three GMs in a row making the same moves is coincidence is the idiot. Keep on drinking the kool aid, idiot. |
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Carl never spent a first round pick on a QB in his 20 years. Both Pioli and Dorsey made the move to trade picks for one before they knew where the office mens room was located. In the 54 years this team has been in existence, they have never successfully drafted and developed a QB. They haven't even really tried in 30. edit, that is not really fair to Carl, as he did spend two second round picks early in his tenure trying to find one, but never a first. Last edited by HemiEd; 04-04-2014 at 02:44 AM.. |
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Im not disagreeing that there haven't been times that these quarterbacks haven't had amazing talent, but to say they haven't had GREAT help is a understatement. U mentioned Brady made the afc champions game with average defense etc and WR's, but with brady I mentioned the SYSTEM he is in, not the talent around him aka. why I referenced Cassel as 11-6 in that system but then came here and suked a$$... Peyton also has had BOTH Marvin Harrison/Reggie Wayne as WR's and then had great wideouts after Marvin retired.. Brady had Randy Moss in his prime along with other top notch receivers like Welker, who most claim Welker is the Broncos workhorse... So Both of these quarterbacks have had tremendous help in there supporting casts, wether it be talent or coaching staff, but Tom bradys coaching staff is already booked for the Hall of fame and 10x over. |
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just like thinking 1 defensive player wont fix everything is no different than the other side of the coin that thinks a Sanders Commings/Hussain Abdullah is going to fix everything. And the Ted Thompson Way in 2014, he signed 1 notable defensive player with the idea of "magically" fixing his defense next season so far. (actually two if you count keeping their in house FA to a contract as well) So this idea that Ted Thompson doesn't spend is a farce. John Dorsey doesn't spend, so far that's true. I'd rather 1 quality FA with the money than 5 JAGs. Like Dorsey has done so far. |
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The Cassel example isn't a good one. Cassel went 11-6, but keep in mind that Brady took that same team to a perfect season. Cassel won games that year because of insane talent, more than system. While Brady has had some years throwing to insane talent, he has had a ton of years where he's carried receivers like Amendola or Reche Caldwell to deep playoff runs. Look what he did last year, even missing Welker and two elite tight ends. Sure, they have some talent around them. But their defenses haven't been good lately, and they have just as much success throwing to average talent as they have had throwing to elite talent. |
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