Would you trade Alex Smith for Colin Kaepernick straight up?

[Alex Smith 4Ever]

I would not. Alex is a better quarterback right now and does not have the off field incidents of Kaepernick

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Nah.. from what I have seen, it's probably more like 85% of them are in favor of Kaepernick. He bedazzles the ignorant with splash plays of awe at times... and somehow, this masks his failures and deficiencies from them for the rest of the time.

It's really amazing how everything was "excuses" for one QB... but suddenly "legit reasons" now for the other.

So, every Alex fan just so migrated to this board then?

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by PGM

So, every Alex fan just so migrated to this board then?

you would have to ask them... There are many active SF forums.. and not so many (that I know of) active KC forums.

You think there are really that many SF/Alex fans that have migrated here and are still active? How many?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

you would have to ask them... There are many active SF forums.. and not so many (that I know of) active KC forums.

You think there are really that many SF/Alex fans that have migrated here and are still active? How many?

Why would I ask? They are all over the damn place.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by PGM

Why would I ask? They are all over the damn place.

Well then smile.. now, you have even more people wishing for the Chiefs' success.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Well then smile.. now, you have even more people wishing for the Chiefs' success.

I only care about the fellow die hards. We don't want them here.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by PGM

I only care about the fellow die hards. We don't want them here.

well, I didn't want Chiefs fans to be intolerant and rude to others that support their team... so looks like no one gets what they want.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

It's really amazing how everything was "excuses" for one QB... but suddenly "legit reasons" now for the other.

True dat. I think Kap has a ton of potential and could be a franchise guy, but it was really interesting to watch the same arguments being made for Kap that were laughed at as "excuses" for Smith. There is a large portion of the niners fanbase that desperately need Smith to fail or their credibility as Football Geniuses would be shot to hell. They keep inching the bar higher and higher of "things he'll never be able to accomplish" hoping no one will notice he keeps proving them all wrong. For this reason, they would not want Smith back. They want him to just go away.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by PGM

So, every Alex fan just so migrated to this board then?

No... there are plenty more Smith fans than have migrated over, but I don't know what the percentage is concerning the "QB controversy". I'm sure there are more people that are happy to have Kap than Smith, but much of that has to do with what I stated in my last post. Too many years of focusing all their blame into one player. Smith did find redemption though in 2011 and 12. It will be interesting to see what kind of reception he gets when the Chiefs come to town.

[htismaqe]

I'm a huge Eric Berry fan.

I'm on record saying that I would start rooting AGAINST the Chiefs if they trade him.

Never in a million years would I EVER think of rooting FOR the team he was traded to nor would I EVER think of signing up for a message board of that team and acting like I was a fan of that team.

Sorry, I just don't understand it.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I'm a huge Eric Berry fan.

I'm on record saying that I would start rooting AGAINST the Chiefs if they trade him.

Never in a million years would I EVER think of rooting FOR the team he was traded to nor would I EVER think of signing up for a message board of that team and acting like I was a fan of that team.

Sorry, I just don't understand it.

Why do you need to understand it? You don't need to apologize, I'm not asking you to understand it. I'm sure there are plenty here that do not understand your statement about rooting against the Chiefs if they trade Berry away. Do you need them to understand it?

That being said, I don't know what is so hard to understand. I've been a fan of the niners for as long as many of you have been fans of the Chiefs. Became a big fan of Smith's largely due to the fact that I didn't agree that he was the niners problem as many people did. I thought the talent around him sucked, coaching sucked, etc etc. That's not to say I thought he was a HOF'er or anything... I just didn't know how good he could be because everything else sucked so bad. What I did see however was someone who gave 100% effort every snap no matter how much his line "betrayed" him, no matter how far the coaches threw him under the bus, or how loud the crowd boo'd. Still gave 100%. I became a fan. Was happy when he finally started seeing well deserved success in SF. Then he was traded to KC. I jumped on the board to see what kind of reaction fans were having to the trade and joined in the conversation as someone who'd seen every snap for the past how ever many years. I wanted to continue to see him have success so I purchased NFL game rewind to watch the games. What is hard to understand about that? I still am a fan of the niners. I just now have two games that I really care to watch instead of one. Win!

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by temper11

Why do you need to understand it?

I don't need to understand it, never said I did.

Originally Posted by temper11

I'm sure there are plenty here that do not understand your statement about rooting against the Chiefs if they trade Berry away. Do you need them to understand it?

Nope.

Originally Posted by temper11

That being said, I don't know what is so hard to understand. I've been a fan of the niners for as long as many of you have been fans of the Chiefs. Became a big fan of Smith's largely due to the fact that I didn't agree that he was the niners problem as many people did. I thought the talent around him sucked, coaching sucked, etc etc. Was happy when he finally started seeing well deserved success in SF. Then he was traded to KC. I jumped on the board to see what kind of reaction fans were having to the trade and joined in the conversation as someone who seen every snap for the past how ever many years. I wanted to continue to see him have success so I purchased NFL game rewind to watch the games. What is hard to understand about that? I still am a fan of the niners. I just now have two games that I really care to watch. What's the problem?

I didn't say anything about YOU specifically. Don't be so defensive.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I'm a huge Eric Berry fan.

I'm on record saying that I would start rooting AGAINST the Chiefs if they trade him.

Never in a million years would I EVER think of rooting FOR the team he was traded to

So... if the Chiefs trade Berry, you are quitting the Chiefs? That's even more extreme than my position. Since you wouldn't root for the team your favorite player was on, I assume that means you would not root FOR any team except whoever was playing the Chiefs on any given Sunday? Sounds depressing. For your sake, I hope the Chiefs retain Berry... it's supposed to be entertainment.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I don't need to understand it, never said I did.



Nope.



I didn't say anything about YOU specifically. Don't be so defensive.

No... I'm not being defensive. But I do fall into the camp you are talking about. Were cool, just trying to give my reasons for being here as it does seem to rankle a few "feathers".

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by temper11

So... if the Chiefs trade Berry, you are quitting the Chiefs? That's even more extreme than my position. Since you wouldn't root for the team your favorite player was on, I assume that means you would not root FOR any team except whoever was playing the Chiefs on any given Sunday? Sounds depressing. For your sake, I hope the Chiefs retain Berry... it's supposed to be entertainment.

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. I would simply stop being a fan. Honestly, I doubt I'd root against the Chiefs so much as I'd just stop watching football altogether.

Not that you did this, but there are people here that basically abandoned the 49ers (or just bemoan them constantly for choosing Kap) when Alex Smith was traded. How is that any better than what I said above?

In fact, how is it not WORSE? I'm choosing to abstain. They're choosing to change sides, like Benedict Arnold.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by temper11

No... I'm not being defensive. But I do fall into the camp you are talking about. Were cool, just trying to give my reasons for being here as it does seem to rankle a few "feathers".

No, you really don't.

You're still a 49er fan and open about it.