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05-06-2014, 11:03 AM | #256 |
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I have no idea what's going on in the contract discussions. I don't know if this report by rappaport is just negotiation tactics..., I don't know if Smith is even involved in them or not, I don't know if the Smith camp is asking for big money or if they are asking for long-term or both or neither, or anything. No one does.
But isn't it possible that they want to sign smith for a long term (3 to 5 years) AND spend their number 1 pick on a QB, if a QB they like falls to them? I know this doesn't enjoy a lot of popularity with fans, because fans like "immediate impact guys" out of the draft, but if the Chiefs like a kid, draft him, and then let him develop under Smith for a few years so when he takes the field, he doesn't get ruined as so many young QB's do - isn't that a good thing? Isn't this what both Dorsey and Reid did with Farve and Rodgers? Didn't Rodgers go late in the first round as well? This would hurt because there are a number of holes on the roster that need to be filled but sometimes you have to bite the bullet for the long term gain. Developing your franchise QB over a few years under an experienced QB might be one of the best formulas for eventual payoffs there is. Teams just rarely have the patience to do it anymore though. Also, do you really want to draft your hotshot QB and put him behind the line that the Chiefs have on paper right now? That kids career would likely be over before it began. If the Chiefs do draft a QB number 1, then I think it is all the more critical to sign Smith up for a few years to protect that QB from flaming out.
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05-06-2014, 11:19 AM | #258 | |
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05-06-2014, 11:21 AM | #259 |
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I think this whole "earn his contract" idea has been bullshit from the beginning. They aren't going to trade two 2nd round picks away for a guy they don't plan to extend. Which is the box they put themselves into. They have no leverage at all.
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05-06-2014, 11:30 AM | #260 |
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This would be my guess as well.
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05-06-2014, 11:36 AM | #261 | |
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IF they don't have plans on extending Smith any time soon, I think it can be indicative of a couple things... 1.) They are playing hard ball with Condon, or at the least are refusing to bend over, spread their butt-cheeks and take it in the ass from the dude...which is GREAT...it's about time someone steps up to that money-grubber. 2.) They consider Poe, Berry and Houston to be less expendable than Smith and they know they will need to sign them to lucrative contracts in the near future...which is also GREAT because they are right about that...not to mention, it's nice to know they aren't handcuffing themselves to the guy like Pioli did so ridiculously prematurely with Cassel. |
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05-06-2014, 11:40 AM | #263 |
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You've seen a report that shows what Condon is asking for? Link?
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05-06-2014, 11:49 AM | #264 |
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Yeah, I suppose you are right. For if it's one thing that Clark Hunt learned after his Cheap's 2012 season, it's this:
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It's his history in asking too much and in many/most cases receiving too much for his other clients that would validate the speculation that the same is going on with Smith.
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05-06-2014, 11:56 AM | #268 |
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Casserly just said he spoke with someone involved in the negotiations with Alex Smith and they are "nowhere" in the talks and he guaranteed the Chiefs take a QB.
Said he wouldn't guarantee it would be with the first pick, but that he guarantees they take a QB in the draft. |
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05-06-2014, 12:02 PM | #269 | |
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eh... I have had enough of this. Trade Alex to a team that actually wants to win. A team that has WRs, an OL, and a defense worth playing for!
I don't believe any of this shit, but it's funny. KC is just trying to rattle some chains before the draft. Why not? Might get a team to bite and trade in front of or even with KC for 23... and that pushes a good non-QB their way or they get the extra draft pick(s) they need to field a good team around a QB.
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If the Chiefs valued Alex Smith as much as people think they do, then the negotiations wouldn't be so far apart right now. Either the Chiefs don't think very highly of Smith and are undercutting him by a ton, or Condon is asking for something ridiculous like Jay Cutler money. In either case, it means the team should walk away from Alex if Condon's not going to come down either to the level the team thinks he's worth or if he's not going to come down to a reasonable level that the team should be expected to pay. |
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