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Old 05-05-2014, 10:25 AM  
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:38 AM   #1036
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Oh I don't know because no other 2cd year QB including the likes of Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck or whomever has ever done that before.
A 2nd year QB just win the SB a year after a 3rd year QB lost in the SB
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:38 AM   #1037
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Not spend 2 high picks on a QB you don't want to sign to a long term deal a year later?
OC, I am curious to know how you know the Chiefs don't want to sign him to a long term contract. Maybe I just missed something, but I thought both sides were interested. Negotations are just part of the deal.
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:39 AM   #1038
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The Chiefs were one of the worst teams in football the year before.

How did they change philosophies?

What is the norm for most first year GM coach tandems?
They were win now last year, ten build thru the draft this year.
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:39 AM   #1039
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They signed Sean Smith, Dunta Robinson, Quinton Demps, Mike Devito, Geoff Shwartz and Anthony Fasano.

Trading for Alex Smith was only one several acquisitions.

So, don't try to sell that shit.
Who is the BIG FA signing? That screamed win now?
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:39 AM   #1040
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Except they are.

If you want to have a guy be your long term answer, you don't go into a contract year. That's playing with fire.

If they really want the guy, sign him. Don't dick aroud with it.
Yep. These are signs that the contract negotiations are not going as they thought that they would have. It is also a reason for us to have been interested in Johnny Manziel.
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They were win now last year, ten build thru the draft this year.
They were in, we have no QB mode last year.
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Yep. These are signs that the contract negotiations are not going as they thought that they would have. It is also a reason for us to have been interested in Johnny Manziel.
They weren't gonna draft Manziel.
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They were in, we have no QB mode last year.
Were they also in overpay your punter, scrub TE, cb, washed up cb an backup QB mode?
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Yes I do.

If Condon and Smith won't budge from 18 mil, then yes, move on.
Why would those guys lie after the draft? There would be no point in it at all, it would be servicing anything or anyone.
On the other hand after the Smith/Kaepernick fiasco in SF I think that it has been made plain that Smith doesn't want to be put in that situation again. So if we weren't interested and texting I think that Reid would be in the media shooting down these stories to help Smith feel better about his future with the Chiefs.
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If trading 2 2nd round picks for a veteran QB and signing all those fa to starter type deals doesn't scream win now, what does?
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Has a deal been done yet? Until it's done, it's all posturing.
The owner, coach and GM all want him here. He's their guy. It's going to get done.
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The owner, coach and GM all want him here. He's their guy. It's going to get done.
Oh I'm sure they want him here.

At what price remains to be seen.
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Were they also in overpay your punter, scrub TE, cb, washed up cb an backup QB mode?
I guess so. the Colquitt and Bowe deals were a bit much.

Never felt like they were breaking the bank on high dollar FAs. You think signing role players says win now? Even if you think they were vastly over paid. At the time not one deal with those FAs said we're all in for this year to me.


I do think they wanted to win. As I said, I don't think they expected the immediate success they had.
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That's the thing, nothing's changed since last year when we were willing to give up top tier QB picks for the guy.

If they don't want to pay him, great. But you can't have it both ways. Either he's worth it, you pay him and th pucks are worth it, you don't pay him and let him walk and the picks were a disaster.

It can't be great trade, not worth contract.
I think most have stated it was a lousy trade for us. I also think that Reid and Dorsey thought that Smith would have reasonable contract demands. Now Condon is the one saying show me the money and we are not so sure about Smiths future with the Chiefs.
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Why would those guys lie after the draft? There would be no point in it at all, it would be servicing anything or anyone.
On the other hand after the Smith/Kaepernick fiasco in SF I think that it has been made plain that Smith doesn't want to be put in that situation again. So if we weren't interested and texting I think that Reid would be in the media shooting down these stories to help Smith feel better about his future with the Chiefs.
Wasn't Farmer just relaying what JM and his agent said?
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