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Old 09-15-2014, 06:59 PM  
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Old 09-15-2014, 08:31 PM   #76
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If you were aware violent crime is down you wouldn't have alluded to its rise being caused by inadequate parental discipline in the Peterson thread.

Moving on, the nature of modern communication allows for us to access anything instantaneously. Since we are aware of more things, we perceive them as happening more often than they did in the past.
So you are saying the nature of current media magnifies most issues.
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Old 09-15-2014, 08:32 PM   #77
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Induced by what? I am aware violent crime is down. What's inducing the fear?
I think it's just a lot harder to get away with stuff now. Cameras are every where. Forensic science has greatly improved. Everyone has a cellphone. Better security systems. Etc.



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So you are saying the nature of current media magnifies most issues.
I think so. They are fear mongers. Every cloud is the next storm of the century. Every scandal is the next Watergate. Every disease is the next black plague. Every missing blonde girl is the next Lindbergh baby.
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Old 09-15-2014, 08:33 PM   #78
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Single parent families are as big an issue as anything for sure. I have always believed that.
I don't think it's really something thats provable either way, on either account.
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Old 09-15-2014, 08:33 PM   #79
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So you are saying the nature of current media magnifies most issues.
No, I'm saying that your interpretation of the media magnifies said issues.

If you only have the news on at 6:00 and 11:00, you only hear about shit twice a day. If you live in this society, you have the opportunity to hear about it constantly.

The information was always there, but the ease of your access changed how often you can ingest it. Moreover, it's changed how others ingest it and your ability to communicate with them about it.
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Old 09-15-2014, 08:33 PM   #80
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I think it's just a lot harder to get away with stuff now. Cameras are every where. Forensic science has greatly improved. Everyone has a cellphone. Better security systems. Etc.
Then why would you need a weapon to defend yourself? Wouldn't everything you stated make you feel safer?
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Old 09-15-2014, 08:35 PM   #81
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No, I'm saying that your interpretation of the media magnifies said issues.

If you only have the news on at 6:00 and 11:00, you only hear about shit twice a day. If you live in this society, you have the opportunity to hear about it constantly.

The information was always there, but the ease of your access changed how often you can ingest it. Moreover, it's changed how others ingest it and your ability to communicate with them about it.
Same thing is happening in sports.

I have no doubt Michael Jordan wouldn't be looked upon the same had he played in the age of social media.
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Old 09-15-2014, 08:36 PM   #82
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Then why would you need a weapon to defend yourself? Wouldn't everything you stated make you feel safer?

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Single parent families are as big an issue as anything for sure. I have always believed that.
That's a gross oversimplification. The problem is not the single parent family in and of itself but that those who are single parents tend to earn less money. Children from single parent families near the median economic levels or higher have the same level of educational achievement as do children from two parent families.
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No, I'm saying that your interpretation of the media magnifies said issues.

If you only have the news on at 6:00 and 11:00, you only hear about shit twice a day. If you live in this society, you have the opportunity to hear about it constantly.

The information was always there, but the ease of your access changed how often you can ingest it. Moreover, it's changed how others ingest it and your ability to communicate with them about it.
I fully understand we know more than we ever had information wise. Does that compound the negativity since media focuses on the negative? Yea probably.

I have said all along Obama has sold more guns than any president in history. And for no real reason other than the threat of taking the right away.

Fact is people don't trust the media, the govt, or their neighbor. That's not Improvment.
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That's a gross oversimplification. The problem is not the single parent family in and of itself but that those who are single parents tend to earn less money. Children from single parent families near the median economic levels or higher have the same level of educational achievement as do children from two parent families.
You don't think the most often missing male influence has little bearing? We know most of the time single parent means single mom.
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I fully understand we know more than we ever had information wise. Does that compound the negativity since media focuses on the negative? Yea probably.

I have said all along Obama has sold more guns than any president in history. And for no real reason other than the threat of taking the right away.

Fact is people don't trust the media, the govt, or their neighbor. That's not Improvment.
You obviously don't understand it if you need me to explain it to you.

Also, that gun thing is a non-sequitur and completely false.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...n-gun-control/

All of those guns that were purchased in Obama's first term happened despite the fact that he had actually been more gun friendly at that point than GWB through similar points in their administrations.

This is your problem. You spout off all of these narratives without any evidence to back them up.
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You don't think the most often missing male influence has little bearing? We know most of the time single parent means single mom.
I don't think that because I know it's not true.

If that were the case then children raised by lesbian parents would have more behavioral issues. They don't.

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You don't think the most often missing male influence has little bearing? We know most of the time single parent means single mom.
Sure if you are a pessimist you might say "More single moms equals more violent crime." Me, I'm an optimist. I see the glass half full - more available milfs. And you don't even need to slip the kid five bucks to get out of the house for an hour, since he's busy knocking over liquor stores or huffing paint.
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