No Charges in Wal-Mart BB Gun Shooting

[NinerDoug]

Here's what I was thinking about. Happened in Santa Rosa, not Redwood City.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4152819.html

Sheriff’s deputies in Santa Rosa, Calif. shot and killed a 13-year-old boy who was holding a pellet gun that resembled an AK-47 assault rifle on Tuesday.

In a press conference Wednesday, Lt. Paul Henry of the Santa Rosa Police Department said that two Sonoma County Sheriff’s Deputies were patrolling a neighborhood when they spotted Andy Lopez, 13, carrying what they said appeared to be a rifle. Henry said that officers called for backup and repeatedly ordered Lopez to drop the weapon. Lopez reportedly turned towards the officers and one of them opened fire. Lopez was pronounced dead at the scene.

"When the deputies shouted at the subject, the subject began to turn toward the deputies," said Henry. "As the subject was turning towards [the deputies], the barrel of the assault rifle was rising up and turning in [their] direction. The deputy feared for his safety, the safety of his partner and the safety of the community members in the area."

Like the guy killed in Walmart, the kid got shouted at, turned toward the people shouting, which is a perfectly natural reaction, and got blown away.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by NinerDoug

Here's what I was thinking about. Happened in Santa Rosa, not Redwood City.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4152819.html



Like the guy killed in Walmart, the kid got shouted at, turned toward the people shouting, which is a perfectly natural reaction, and got blown away.

Once again a "BB gun" that looks like an AR, what could possible go wrong? Note to self: don't let your kids wander around out there with something that looks like an AR-15.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again a "BB gun" that looks like an AR, what could possible go wrong? Note to self: don't let your kids wander around out there with something that looks like an AR-15.

What about the adults wandering around with real AR-15's? We should call the cops on them and see if there is a shoot out?

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

What about the adults wandering around with real AR-15's? We should call the cops on them and see if there is a shoot out?

Did you miss my earlier post? I stated those guys that walk into establishments with their AR's making some kind of statement are idiots. Because they can legally do something, doesn't necessarily mean it's a good idea. It makes non reeruned gun owners look bad.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Did you miss my earlier post? I stated those guys that walk into establishments with their AR's making some kind of statement are idiots. Because they can legally do something, doesn't necessarily mean it's a good idea. It makes non reeruned gun owners look bad.

Sorry man, missed it. Apologizes.

[BigRedChief]

If you view these all as isolated incidents, you could make a case, however it is stretched that the officer acted according to the police procedure.

The thing is that the majority of these shootings are of black people by white officers. Not every case obviously but we can't deny that there is a racial element to all thse shootings.

Add in some ancillary evidence that white people are carrying AR-15's into stores without any injuries to themselves or bystanders, you have to question that the racial profiling angle is more in play than we want to admit.

[ARROW2]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

If you view these all as isolated incidents, you could make a case, however it is stretched that the officer acted according to the police procedure.

The thing is that the majority of these shootings are of black people by white officers. Not every case obviously but we can't deny that there is a racial element to all thse shootings.

Add in some ancillary evidence that white people are carrying AR-15's into stores without any injuries to themselves or bystanders, you have to question that the racial profiling angle is more in play than we want to admit.

Yep, unfortunately, it's the reality.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Sorry man, missed it. Apologizes.

No worries dude.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again a "BB gun" that looks like an AR, what could possible go wrong? Note to self: don't let your kids wander around out there with something that looks like an AR-15.

Adults know how to follow the letter of the law whereas kids don't, but to me we're still not at the point as a culture where I feel comfortable carrying non-concealed.

Too many people lose their minds and their bowels when they so much as see a gun, and I don't want to be getting beaten up or worse by a swat team...

[Mennonite]

Originally Posted by Cochise

Too many people lose their minds and their bowels when they so much as see a gun, and I don't want to be getting beaten up or worse by a swat team...

So you are so afraid of police you are afraid to do something that is perfectly legal?

That pretty much sums up the problem right there.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by Mennonite

So you are so afraid of police you are afraid to do something that is perfectly legal?

Open carry is not legal here, so I do not open carry.

But to answer your question, I'd be afraid of some prius driving cakeboy having a panic attack and calling the police, yes. I generally wish to avoid situations where someone else might push a button on me.

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by Cochise

Open carry is not legal here, so I do not open carry.

But to answer your question, I'd be afraid of some prius driving cakeboy having a panic attack and calling the police, yes. I generally wish to avoid situations where someone else might push a button on me.

If I am in a room with someone I do not know and they're wearing a loaded weapon on their hip, I could give 9/10 of a **** if they're licensed or not.

FTR, I don't drive a prius but I do enjoy a good cake.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by J Diddy

If I am in a room with someone I do not know and they're wearing a loaded weapon on their hip, I could give 9/10 of a **** if they're licensed or not.

Don't move to Florida them. I bet 1/2 the people you see gathered at any spot are packing openly or concealed.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Cochise

Open carry is not legal here, so I do not open carry.

But to answer your question, I'd be afraid of some prius driving cakeboy having a panic attack and calling the police, yes. I generally wish to avoid situations where someone else might push a button on me.

Open carry is legal here. Practically anyone who is not in an insane ward can get a concelaed carry permit. Guns in bars, stores, parks everywhere. Add on the stand your ground law......... its really a more dangerous place to live, not safer.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Open carry is legal here. Practically anyone who is not in an insane ward can get a concelaed carry permit. Guns in bars, stores, parks everywhere. Add on the stand your ground law......... its really a more dangerous place to live, not safer.

No. Open carry is not legal in Florida unless you are engaged in a few exempted activities, such as target shooting, hunting, camping, fishing, etc.