Chiefs Let's talk about the Chargers. - Page 3

Direckshun · 10-13-2014, 04:51 AM

There's little doubt they have the league's best QB right now, as Philip Rivers is playing out of his mind. He's doing it with a damn good receiver corps, which features three WRs (Floyd, Allen, Royal) who are fast and run sharp, quick routes, which the Chiefs CBs struggle with, Marcus Cooper especially. And we still don't know what the Chiefs are going to do at the third CB spot to replace Chris Owens -- we might actually be trotting out Phillip Gaines. Yikes.

The biggest reason Rivers is ripping the NFL a new asshole, of course, has been the resurgence of Antonio Gates, who is playing like it's 2008. Gates is uncoverable right now, so it doesn't really matter if we bring Eric Berry back or not.

I don't know anything about the interior of the Chargers' OL, but their bookends of King Dunlap and DJ Fluker are (a.) really good in their own rights, and (b.) benefit from Phillip Rivers' excellent pocket presence and quick release.

The Chargers are banged up at RB, and I don't really know who's going to be starting there. Both Ryan Mathews and Donald Brown are out, so this kid Brandon Oliver has been racking up 100-yard performances both weeks. They've also got Ronnie Brown, and believe it or not, Shaun Draughn is still in the league.

This is the year the Chargers feature a defense every bit as good as their offense. Their DL is monstrous, with Kendall Reyes and Corey Liuget bookending an overachieving Sean Lissemore in the middle.

I like their ILBs more than their OLBs -- Manti Te'o and Donald Butler cover well and hit the line of scrimmage hard. It's a good thing they get a pocket push from Reyes and Liuget, because they have no edge rushers other than Dwight Freeney, who has actually played well despite being on social security.

The CBs are where San Diego is really hurting people. Brandon Flowers, Shareece Wright, and Jason Verrett is a small lineup, but they play hard, cover well, and will erase every WR not named Bowe from Alex's sight.

I have no opinion on Marcus Gilchrist but Eric Weddle is an opportunistic mother****er with a nose for the ball.

**gblowfish** · 10-13-2014, 09:28 AM

I don't wanna.

**MahiMike** · 10-13-2014, 09:34 AM

Chargers will win the West.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-13-2014, 09:36 AM

I hope they destroy Denver.

Three7s · 10-13-2014, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

Also the chiefs are coming off a bye and doesn't Andy Reid have like an out of this world 90%+ win percentage coming off bye weeks? I could be wrong but i seem to recall hearing something about that last year.

Yeah, people made a big deal about it last year because of the upcoming game against the Broncos. Of course, we ended up losing.

CapsLockKey · 10-13-2014, 09:42 AM

The Chargers got propped up after beating Seattle. Now that Dallas beat them in their own house, while still a quality one it's not as daunting of a win. Other than that game, they've beat up on a bunch of nobodies. NYJ, Jax, Oak, and Buffalo.

**Old Dog** · 10-13-2014, 09:48 AM

The line opened at 5. Don't think I would touch that one...seems about right

Three7s · 10-13-2014, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CapsLockKey

The Chargers got propped up after beating Seattle. Now that Dallas beat them in their own house, while still a quality one it's not as daunting of a win. Other than that game, they've beat up on a bunch of nobodies. NYJ, Jax, Oak, and Buffalo.

You've got a point. Washington played Seattle pretty tough too.

ThaVirus · 10-13-2014, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CapsLockKey

The Chargers got propped up after beating Seattle. Now that Dallas beat them in their own house, while still a quality one it's not as daunting of a win. Other than that game, they've beat up on a bunch of nobodies. NYJ, Jax, Oak, and Buffalo.

Very good point. All of those teams are buns.

Iconic · 10-13-2014, 09:57 AM

Bills held Gates to one reception for 8 yards.

ThaVirus · 10-13-2014, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Iconic

Bills held Gates to one reception for 8 yards.

If I remember correctly, the Bills were the best at neutralizing TE production last season. I'm not sure what scheme they're running or who usually sticks to the TE but maybe it's a trend?

In either case, I'm not even so much worried about Gates. Rivers WILL rip us a new asshole and it won't matter who's on the receiving end of his passes.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 10-13-2014, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Buck

Our o-line may be the worst graded o-line on PFF.

Our d-line is probably one of the lower graded d-lines too.

Manti Teo will be out. Reggie Walker will be out. Brandon Flowers will be out. Melvin Ingram will be out. Shareece Wright will be out (probably).

We will be missing 6-8 starters.

There's no reason why you shouldn't win, except Rivers.

We're missing close to the same number of starters, and we're playing in your house. I don't see how we win that game. In fact, as much as I hate it, I could see us losing by 10+.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-13-2014, 10:10 AM

NO TEO'??????

OH SHIT WE GOT THIS!

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 10-13-2014, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 505 Chief

NO TEO'??????

OH SHIT WE GOT THIS!

They're starting his girlfriend instead. They say she's like a ghost on the field.

mcaj22 · 10-13-2014, 10:31 AM

I think we hang 40 on them like we did the Patriots.

Andy is a mastermind coming off a bye week. This team seems to play hard coming off a bad loss. Unfortunately they can't string two wins together so I expect the to lay an egg against the Rams where Austin Davis lights them up and this board explodes.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-13-2014, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

They're starting his girlfriend instead. They say she's like a ghost on the field.

10-13-2014, 04:51 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4153447	Let's talk about the Chargers. There's little doubt they have the league's best QB right now, as Philip Rivers is playing out of his mind. He's doing it with a damn good receiver corps, which features three WRs (Floyd, Allen, Royal) who are fast and run sharp, quick routes, which the Chiefs CBs struggle with, Marcus Cooper especially. And we still don't know what the Chiefs are going to do at the third CB spot to replace Chris Owens -- we might actually be trotting out Phillip Gaines. Yikes. The biggest reason Rivers is ripping the NFL a new asshole, of course, has been the resurgence of Antonio Gates, who is playing like it's 2008. Gates is uncoverable right now, so it doesn't really matter if we bring Eric Berry back or not. I don't know anything about the interior of the Chargers' OL, but their bookends of King Dunlap and DJ Fluker are (a.) really good in their own rights, and (b.) benefit from Phillip Rivers' excellent pocket presence and quick release. The Chargers are banged up at RB, and I don't really know who's going to be starting there. Both Ryan Mathews and Donald Brown are out, so this kid Brandon Oliver has been racking up 100-yard performances both weeks. They've also got Ronnie Brown, and believe it or not, Shaun Draughn is still in the league. This is the year the Chargers feature a defense every bit as good as their offense. Their DL is monstrous, with Kendall Reyes and Corey Liuget bookending an overachieving Sean Lissemore in the middle. I like their ILBs more than their OLBs -- Manti Te'o and Donald Butler cover well and hit the line of scrimmage hard. It's a good thing they get a pocket push from Reyes and Liuget, because they have no edge rushers other than Dwight Freeney, who has actually played well despite being on social security. The CBs are where San Diego is really hurting people. Brandon Flowers, Shareece Wright, and Jason Verrett is a small lineup, but they play hard, cover well, and will erase every WR not named Bowe from Alex's sight. I have no opinion on Marcus Gilchrist but Eric Weddle is an opportunistic mother****er with a nose for the ball.
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CapsLockKey Starter Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $1541445	The Chargers got propped up after beating Seattle. Now that Dallas beat them in their own house, while still a quality one it's not as daunting of a win. Other than that game, they've beat up on a bunch of nobodies. NYJ, Jax, Oak, and Buffalo.
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10-13-2014, 10:31 AM	#44
mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	I think we hang 40 on them like we did the Patriots. Andy is a mastermind coming off a bye week. This team seems to play hard coming off a bad loss. Unfortunately they can't string two wins together so I expect the to lay an egg against the Rams where Austin Davis lights them up and this board explodes.
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