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Old 09-01-2014, 04:38 PM  
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Raiders name Derek Carr starting QB
Report: Raiders tab Derek Carr as starting quarterback

Posted by Mike Wilkening on September 1, 2014, 6:21 PM EDT
Derek Carr

The Raiders are going with a rookie at quarterback to begin the regular season.

Fox’s Jay Glazer reports the Raiders have switched starters in advance of Sunday’s opener at the Jets, with Derek Carr getting the nod over Matt Schaub.

According to Glazer, players have been informed of the decision.

The call to go with Carr comes after the second-round pick from Fresno State completed 11-of-13 passes for 143 yards and three TDs in the preseason finale vs. Seattle. Schaub sat out the game with elbow soreness.

Schaub, whom the Raiders acquired from Houston in the offseason, was just 24-of-47 passing for 218 yards with no touchdowns and one interception in exhibition play. He was sacked three times.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...g-quarterback/
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Old 11-08-2014, 01:35 AM   #616
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And 4 of his touchdowns have come in the 4th quarter when down by more than a TD.

Garbage stats for a garbage TD. The 6-10 club is all you need to know about Dump-it Derek.
You really want to play that game?

Take away Bortle's TD vs Miami. He scored that TD in garbage time, 4th quarter down by more than 2 scores. Apparently that doesn't count.

Take Away Bortle's TD vs Cinci in garbage time, down by more than a touchdown.

Take away both TDs vs the Colts, both scored in garbage time when down by 34 points in the 4th quarter. Those clearly don't count.

Take away the TD vs the Titans. It came late in the 4th quarter, down by more than a TD so it clearly didn't count.

So according to CP's statistics, Blake Bortles has only thrown 3 legitimate TD passes on the season. The rest were garbage.

So how is Derek Carr worse?
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Old 11-08-2014, 05:25 AM   #617
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The Raiders haven't been to the playoffs with a QB of their own drafting since Marc Wilson, in the '85 season. Since then, they've been to the playoffs 6 times, all with the famous 'retreads' at QB.

The Raiders have won 3 Super Bowls. None of those wins came at the hands of a Raiders 1st round QB pick. Stabler was a 2nd round pick of the Raiders, and Plunkett (2 SB wins) was yet another 'retread'.
Those 99-02 teams were stacked with HOF players and great overall players.

The Raiders won their last SB with a retread QB in 1983. The NFL just doesn't work this way anymore. Times have changed and so have the Raiders. Their trying to draft a QB and meanwhile the Chiefs are trying to do what use to work.

The book is still out on Carr.
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Old 11-08-2014, 05:37 AM   #618
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Those 99-02 teams were stacked with HOF players and great overall players.

The Raiders won their last SB with a retread QB in 1983. The NFL just doesn't work this way anymore. Times have changed and so have the Raiders. Their trying to draft a QB and meanwhile the Chiefs are trying to do what use to work.

The book is still out on Carr.

Yep, we are trying to play 1980's ball. We played it in the 90's and it didnt even work then! We got what 2 play off wins in the 90's? maybe 3. Last one was in the 93 season in Jan of 94?

Raiders may suck and suck really bad, but at least they are trying with a QB. We are just trying to stay at 7-9 to 10-6 with hopes of squeeking into the play offs. There really hasnt been that many qb's to draft lately though. The one that was out there we completely ****ed that tank job up. lol I still stick by we arent going to be serious contenders for at least 3-5 years.
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Old 11-08-2014, 09:43 AM   #620
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You really want to play that game?

Take away Bortle's TD vs Miami. He scored that TD in garbage time, 4th quarter down by more than 2 scores. Apparently that doesn't count.

Take Away Bortle's TD vs Cinci in garbage time, down by more than a touchdown.

Take away both TDs vs the Colts, both scored in garbage time when down by 34 points in the 4th quarter. Those clearly don't count.

Take away the TD vs the Titans. It came late in the 4th quarter, down by more than a TD so it clearly didn't count.

So according to CP's statistics, Blake Bortles has only thrown 3 legitimate TD passes on the season. The rest were garbage.

So how is Derek Carr worse?
They are both terrible. I've never been a Bortles fan.
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Old 11-08-2014, 09:50 AM   #621
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That just tells me you haven't watched him play at all. He's easily the most impressive of the rookie QBs.
So what you are telling me them is that there aren't any rookie QBs worth a shit....Cool
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He's a dump off artist playing in the shit hole of Oakland of course he isn't worth mentioning.
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They are both terrible. I've never been a Bortles fan.
it is too early to tell on both players. There is a large consensus through out the NFL that Carr looks like a good prospect. You're simply talking out of your ass~
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it is too early to tell on both players. There is a large consensus through out the NFL that Carr looks like a good prospect. You're simply talking out of your ass~
He sure throws a pretty three-yard check down!
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That's going to be a stupid line no matter how many times you post it.
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That's going to be a stupid line no matter how many times you post it.
So easy for a lottery winner to say...
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The Raiders won their last SB with a retread QB in 1983. The NFL just doesn't work this way anymore.
That's just not true. Four of the last ten SB winning QBs were retread QBs.


Warner
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Brees

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So easy for a lottery winner to say...
It's not about hard or easy. It's about the data.
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That's just not true. Four of the last ten SB winning QBs were retread QBs.


Warner
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Brees

Brady
E. Manning
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Flacco
Wilson
Four is not inspiring. Especially two of those four. The data......

sucks.
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Four is not inspiring. Especially two of those four. The data......

sucks.
Inspiring? Who gives a ****? Like Flacco or Eli are inspiring?

Four of the last 10 SB winning QBs are retreads. Five of the last 10 SB winning QBs were found outside of the draft's first round. That's the data.
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