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Old 01-25-2015, 10:39 PM  
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Proof positive that Russell Wilson is a game manager

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The Seattle Seahawks advanced to the Super Bowl in one of the most improbable comebacks in playoff history. Russell Wilson completed his final five passes, including a game-winning 35-yard touchdown in overtime to Jermaine Kearse.

Before the final five minutes and overtime, however, Wilson was abysmal. He threw a career-high four interceptions and became the second player in the Super Bowl era to win a postseason game with that many picks. Through three quarters, Wilson had a 0.2 Total QBR, and although he increased that number to 13.6 with his late-game heroics, Wilson finished the game with the lowest Total QBR in a postseason win since 2006.

This is not the first time that Seattle has won despite Wilson’s inefficiency. In fact, since 2012, Wilson’s first year in the league, the Seahawks have 15 wins in which their quarterback posted a below-average Total QBR, five more than any other team in the NFL. That includes both of Seattle’s NFC Championship wins during that time.
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Since Wilson entered the league, he has a 63.7 Total QBR in the regular season and playoffs, which ranks eighth among 31 qualified quarterbacks. Wilson deserves credit for his above-average QBR during that time, but does that equate to a 42-13 (.764 win percentage) career record?

Based on Wilson’s game-level QBRs in the last three seasons, he has almost 10 more wins than expected. No other player has six more wins than expected during that time.

So how have Wilson and the Seahawks been able to defy the odds? One word: defense.


In the last three seasons, the Seahawks have contributed 4.4 points per game to their net scoring margin on defense, by far the best defensive efficiency in the NFL. Only Alex Smith (2.1) and Andy Dalton (2.1) have had defenses that contributed more than two expected points per game in their starts during that time.
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Seattle’s defense has a knack for playing its best when Wilson and the offense are at their worst. Since the start of 2012, Wilson has had 22 games with a QBR below 50, including 15 wins. In those games, Seattle has held its opponents to an average QBR of 34.0 and has had a per-game defensive efficiency of +7.3. In Wilson’s games with an above-average QBR, the Seahawks have allowed a 45.7 average QBR and have had a +2.4 defensive efficiency rating.
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Old 07-25-2015, 09:52 PM   #181
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He's got pretty much all the leverage here.
No, he doesn't.

Not even close.
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Old 07-25-2015, 10:00 PM   #182
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2 tags and they will realize by then.
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Old 07-25-2015, 10:10 PM   #183
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2 tags and they will realize by then.
Two tags and they'll have their next guy ready to take over.

$30 million verses $110? No brainer.
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Old 07-25-2015, 10:17 PM   #184
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Old 07-25-2015, 10:32 PM   #185
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As it stands, the NFL's top-earning quarterbacks, on average, are Aaron Rodgers ($22.0 million), Ben Roethlisberger ($21.85 million), Cam Newton ($20.76 million), Matt Ryan ($20.75 million) and Joe Flacco ($20.1 million).

And then there's this, according to ProFootballTalk: "Word on the NFL grapevine is that the Seahawks have offered (Wilson) a package worth nearly $21 million per year, with significant guaranteed money."

And so far, Wilson hasn't taken it. Which suggests that he's looking for more (and lends credence to the report that he wants to be the league's highest-paid player).
Giving Russell Dilfer $21 million per year is like giving Alex Smith $21 million per year. Except worse, since Seattle would be losing Lynch and the best defense in football if they actually give that kind of money to a game manager.
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Old 07-25-2015, 10:45 PM   #186
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Giving Russell Dilfer $21 million per year is like giving Alex Smith $21 million per year. Except worse, since Seattle would be losing Lynch and the best defense in football if they actually give that kind of money to a game manager.
Russell Wilson isn't the best pocket passer in the world but he creates a shit ton of big plays by extending plays. Having a guy that can destroy a perfectly defensed play by extending it is invaluable, it's one of the things that made Elway so special.
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Old 07-25-2015, 11:54 PM   #187
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these same people harp about Tom not having enough weapons and Andrew being a 1 man team and then you look at seattle who feature Doug Baldwin, Jermaine Kearse and Luke Willson in the passing game. And Tony Moeaki.

I liken his lack of stats to an NBA blowout. If your team is up 10 points in the 3rd quarter and you have the best defense in the league ... why on Earth would you put yourself in a position to see Jermaine Kearse drop two balls that hit him in the numbers that turn into costly interceptions?

All Russell Wilson does is win. You referenced the NFC Championship Game from last year and fail to state two things:

1) San Fran had an absolutely elite defense.

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2) Seattle won that game from behind. Seattle won that game because on 4th and 7 Russell got San Fran on a hard count (offsides) and then, knowing he had a free play, made a beautiful throw that gave Kearse the opportunity to make a play and he did and that was that.

This website believes only elite QB's can win Super Bowls. Russell wins one? Nah. He just has Lynch and an elite defense!

This website believes in clutch QB play. Russell constantly performs in the 4th quarter and constantly has won big games. That was the most clutch 4 minutes of football in NFL history last Sunday. He's 6-1 in the playoffs. His 1 loss featured the best half of football (2nd half) I've ever seen a QB play in my life. He led his team to a game winning TD and the Hawks vaunted defense couldn't keep Matt Ryan out of field goal range in 28 seconds. Seriously. His 1 playoff loss was one of the most clutch postseason performances I've ever seen.

But yep.

GoChargers doesn't think Seattle should give him an extension. He thinks they should let him walk. I am not kidding. He said this in the thread last week during the Packers game.

kaepernick had a lot to do with seattle beating niners 3 turnovers on 4 4th quarter drives, including ego fueled pick forcing pass to crabtree to try to beat dick sherman
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Russell Wilson isn't the best pocket passer in the world but he creates a shit ton of big plays by extending plays. Having a guy that can destroy a perfectly defensed play by extending it is invaluable, it's one of the things that made David so special.
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