Things to consider upon last night's ending

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

The Chiefs are held back on being a playoff caliber team by the HC and QB.

You really don't think that this is a playoff caliber team?

I do.

I truly feel that they were a significantly better team than Denver last night and were right in it to the end (lead with less than 2 minutes to go) despite all of the monumental **** ups that occurred. (I can't ever remember that many things go wrong in a single Chiefs game - playoff loss to the Colts included, and they were still right there with the lead and less than two minutes to play.

This team is legit.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

You really don't think that this is a playoff caliber team?

I do.

I truly feel that they were a significantly better team than Denver last night and were right in it to the end (lead with less than 2 minutes to go) despite all of the monumental **** ups that occurred. (I can't ever remember that many things go wrong in a single Chiefs game - playoff loss to the Colts included, and they were still right there with the lead and less than two minutes to play.

This team is legit.

Absolutely not, last night should have made that explicitly clear.

Defense is able to hold the opposition to under 20 points and generated six points of their own with an interception return for a TD but the team still blew a 14 point lead at home because their quarterback could not or would not audible out of dumb play calls, missed wide open receivers and turned the ball over twice even though his calling card is doing the opposite of that in addition to the head coach making bad game related decisions in crucial situations and the one bonafide playmaker on the team fumbling two carries.

Everything but the Smith picks were things you can count on for KC given the personnel involved -even the Charles turnovers because he has a documented history of fumbling the ****ing ball at a higher rate than other premiere backs.

I've said this several times: Maclin and Kelce aren't enough to get Smith out of his conservative, take-no-chances, make-no-mistakes game and there are at least TWO visible examples of Smith -a supposedly smart and accurate QB- making terrible decisions and missing even the safest of throws.

Similarly, Andy Reid is doing the same shit that partially got him chased out of Philadelphia. Abandoning the run game when it's the one strength of the offense (the series that stalled in the red zone), having an offensive call that takes incredibly too long to get dialed in to the QB (second half timeout in Denver territory), and mismanaging the clock (opting to run instead of kneel to end regulation) -the latter of which literally lost KC the game.

We've got two games of evidence that makes it obvious the Chiefs -offensively- are no better than last year outside of marginal upgrades on the offensive line. No ifs, ands or buts about it. Double or look like you're double covering Kelce, double or look like you're double covering Maclin and don't let Charles beat you on the ground and you've contained the Chiefs. Kelce is putting up decent numbers but Maclin has Dwayne Bowe-esque production so far. This was predictable once KC made no other move to improve offensive skill personnel outside of adding Maclin. Wilson and Thomas are more or less rookies. Both are undersized and Thomas has no business actually being anything more than a kick returner. Conley got hurt in camp and is a rookie, so he wasn't going to contribute anything this season anyway.

That leaves Avant and Frankie Hammond as the only other WR options.. and I'm going to guess you've never pointed to them as guys that actually good enough to make the offense go places.

They weren't better than Denver last night. The scoreboard proves it and the turnover margin proves it.

The 2015 Chiefs are the 2014 Chiefs. If you thought this year's team was a playoff contender, then logically you must have thought last year's team was a playoff contender.

And I'm going to guess you never said as much last year.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Absolutely not, last night should have made that explicitly clear.

Defense is able to hold the opposition to under 20 points and generated six points of their own with an interception return for a TD but the team still blew a 14 point lead at home because their quarterback could not or would not audible out of dumb play calls, missed wide open receivers and turned the ball over twice even though his calling card is doing the opposite of that in addition to the head coach making bad game related decisions in crucial situations and the one bonafide playmaker on the team fumbling two carries.

Everything but the Smith picks were things you can count on for KC given the personnel involved -even the Charles turnovers because he has a documented history of fumbling the ****ing ball at a higher rate than other premiere backs.

I've said this several times: Maclin and Kelce aren't enough to get Smith out of his conservative, take-no-chances, make-no-mistakes game and there are at least TWO visible examples of Smith -a supposedly smart and accurate QB- making terrible decisions and missing even the safest of throws.

Similarly, Andy Reid is doing the same shit that partially got him chased out of Philadelphia. Abandoning the run game when it's the one strength of the offense (the series that stalled in the red zone), having an offensive call that takes incredibly too long to get dialed in to the QB (second half timeout in Denver territory), and mismanaging the clock (opting to run instead of kneel to end regulation) -the latter of which literally lost KC the game.

We've got two games of evidence that makes it obvious the Chiefs -offensively- are no better than last year outside of marginal upgrades on the offensive line. No ifs, ands or buts about it. Double or look like you're double covering Kelce, double or look like you're double covering Maclin and don't let Charles beat you on the ground and you've contained the Chiefs. Kelce is putting up decent numbers but Maclin has Dwayne Bowe-esque production so far. This was predictable once KC made no other move to improve offensive skill personnel outside of adding Maclin. Wilson and Thomas are more or less rookies. Both are undersized and Thomas has no business actually being anything more than a kick returner. Conley got hurt in camp and is a rookie, so he wasn't going to contribute anything this season anyway.

That leaves Avant and Frankie Hammond as the only other WR options.. and I'm going to guess you've never pointed to them as guys that actually good enough to make the offense go places.

They weren't better than Denver last night. The scoreboard proves it and the turnover margin proves it.

The 2015 Chiefs are the 2014 Chiefs. If you thought this year's team was a playoff contender, then logically you must have thought last year's team was a playoff contender.

And I'm going to guess you never said as much last year.

You are a giant pile of shit

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You are a giant pile of shit

Offer up some sort of refutation of what I said in that post or you're just trolling. You spend a lot of time calling people idiots when they disagree with yet you don't elaborate as to why said people are idiots.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Offer up some sort of refutation of what I said in that post or you're just trolling. You spend a lot of time calling people idiots when they disagree with yet you don't elaborate as to why said people are idiots.

I don't think he called you an idiot.