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Old 07-14-2015, 07:36 PM  
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***Official 2015 STL Cardinals Thread II***
2011 World Series Championship
2012 NLCS. One win from another WS appearance.
2013 World Series. Two wins from another World Series Championship
2014 NLCS. Three wins from another WS appearance
2015 Clinched Central Division title and Home Field advantage in the playoffs. First team in MLB to win 100 games since 2011.

  • Made the postseason 11 times in the last 15 seasons.
  • Only 1 losing season since 2000.
  • Reached the World Series 4 times since 2004 and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.
  • Made the NLCS 9 times including the last 4 years 2011-2014
  • Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.
  • 65 post season wins since 2004. 22+ wins more than any other team.
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Old 09-23-2015, 09:29 PM   #1846
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Be interesting to see if Matheny chooses Jay over Pham and Kozma over Garcia.
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I guess the decision would be between Bourjos and Pham. Unless you only want to bring 11 pitchers and cut either Broxton or Lyons. But let's face it, there is no way Matheny doesn't bring Jay.
You cant bring Jay unless you cut Pham. Cutting your hottest hitter is something not even Matheny would be dumb enough to do. We nerf offense more thsn a pinch runner.

I'd be okay cutting Maness and putting Bourjas on there because the 5th starter and Waino could do that job.
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Old 09-23-2015, 09:32 PM   #1848
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You cant bring Jay unless you cut Pham. Cutting your hottest hitter is something not even Matheny would be dumb enough to do. We nerf offense more thsn a pinch runner.

I'd be okay cutting Maness and putting Bourjas on there because the 5th starter and Waino could do that job.
No way I choose Broxton over Maness.
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Be interesting to see if Matheny chooses Jay over Pham and Kozma over Garcia.
Doesnt matter if Pham cools down before the playoffs. We have seen time and time again what a single hot hitter with power can do in a playoff series.

I just don't see how Matheny leaves the bible stud regulars off the roster. But if you put Choate, Jay and Kozma who comes off?

I'm using Lyons as a LOOGY. Chaote will burn us again. It's inevitable.

Kozma comes along, that key pinch hit to keep a rally going will never materialize.

But the big mistake in putting Jay on the roster is the only way to do that is leave Pham off.
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Old 09-23-2015, 09:40 PM   #1850
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No way I choose Broxton over Maness.
I'd be okay with that too. But, Matheny is not leaving Maness off the roster. But he should.
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You just don't need 8 relievers with the way the playoffs are structured. And we all know Choate is making the roster.

I would leave off Cishek and Broxton for Villanueva and Bourjos. (Assuming Waino can go)? And like it or not, it will be Choate instead of Lyons.

Shit, I think in a short series like the playoffs, Bourjos has more value than Adams.
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I'd really like to think Kozma is left of after barely playing this month and just amazingly awful numbers. I'd also like to think that Pham playing a lot recently and being hot make that choice obvious as well.
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I'd be okay with that too. But, Matheny is not leaving Maness off the roster. But he should.
Lol. No way is Broxton better than Maness.
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Start of football season and just checking box scores lately made me completely miss the news on Waino being cleared and maybe being available for playoffs.
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You just don't need 8 relievers with the way the playoffs are structured. And we all know Choate is making the roster.
Playoff rosters are not built on merit or need alone. Clubhouse considerations and chemistry are a factor. And in Mathenys world, what you did in the past.
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Shit, I think in a short series like the playoffs, Bourjos has more value than Adams.
No way Adams is left off the roster. Although I agree with you on who has more value.
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Mathenys 25 man roster With the add of Waino, it will be tough to carry Bourjas, Jay and Pham.

OF (6)
Holliday
Jay
Piscotty
Hayward
Grichuk
Pham

INF (8)
Wong
Adams
Carp
Peralta
Kozma
Reynolds
Yadi
Cruz

Pitchers (11)
Wacha
Lackey
Martinez
Lynn
Waino
Garcia
Rosey
Seigriest
Cishek
Choate
Maness

Matheny wants to add Borjas, who will he take off? Not who he should take off but who would he leave off?
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I'd prefer to see grichuk in left long term and Piscotty at 1st.
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It was fun. Wrigley is cool albeit a bit of a shithole. Wish we'd have played better
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What is the infatuation with Bourjos? I don't get it. He cant hit and his defense is vastly overrated. Can he steal bases? Sometimes. But that's not enough to put him on the playoff roster IMO.

Maness really took a dump recently, but I still prefer him to Broxton. I am not a Cardinals fan, so I don't watch them nearly as much as you guys....but I wholeheartedly believe that Broxton will cost you guys in the playoffs. He simply isn't very good. Just watch. He is going to give up the cookies in an important spot. I hope it doesn't cost you dearly.
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Bourjos defense isn't vastly overrated.
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