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Johnny Manziel’s Father Hopes Son Goes to Jail. Calls him a "druggie"
Johnny Manziel’s family has had enough of the NFL free agent quarterback’s ever-growing list of trouble. The former Cleveland Browns quarterback was back in the news this week after he was involved in another hit-and-run accident. And to make matters worse for him, his lawyer, Bob Hinton, accidentally sent a damaging text to The Associated Press. The text, which in part said “Heaven help us if one of the conditions is to pee in a bottle,” also mentioned a potential plea deal in Manziel’s domestic violence case and that the QB spent more than $1,000 on drug paraphernalia shortly after the hit-and-run.
Manziel’s father, Paul, was quite candid about the situation when ESPN’s Josina Anderson asked him Friday for a comment. “He’s a druggie. It’s not a secret that he’s a druggie,” Paul Manziel said in a phone interview Friday. “I don’t know what to say other than my son is a druggie and he needs help. He just hasn’t (sought) it yet. Hopefully he doesn’t die before he comes to his senses. That’s about all you can say. I don’t know what else to say. … “I had him in rehab and he escaped and the doctors let him go, and that is a whole other story. So I mean I had him (in rehab) and the system failed. It didn’t work. “He has more money than me, so he can outrun me. Like I said, there are two things that are going to happen: He’s either going to die, or he’s going to figure out that he needs help. It’s one of the two. But we’ve done everything that we can do. Life goes on. You can’t just chase somebody that’s not willing to listen. The story is not going to change. It’s the same. … “I mean, I hate to say it, but I hope he goes to jail. I mean, that would be the best place for him.” Read more at: http://nesn.com/2016/06/johnny-manzi...tm_campaign=im Last edited by Dave Lane; 06-25-2016 at 07:07 PM.. |
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The difference is parenting and family. Manziel, unlike those mentioned, bought into the hype and adulation. The trouble usually begins when one begins to believe their own press clippings. If a person doesn't respect their parents, siblings or any person of authority in their life, it's difficult to respect ones self. |
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06-26-2016, 11:07 AM | #47 |
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His whole family appears to be shit.
Drug charges more than once |
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If he was my son or daughter and I had virtually unlimited financial resources, I'd certainly be more active and attentive. I wouldn't go on national TV and say he should be locked up when I myself have done virtually nothing to help him. |
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06-26-2016, 11:19 AM | #49 | |
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Anyone in here who thinks that Johnny's parenting was the decisive element in his becoming a complete douche-bag narcissist, has a poor understanding of both parenting and human development. It's a complex confluence of nature, nurture, life experience, peer interactions, and a real bitch called free will. Genetics and parenting play a big role, especially early; however, life, friends, and personal choices hold much greater sway once kids head into high school and beyond. People who work with children and young adults understand that simple truth. People who suggest otherwise, are simply ignorant. Great parents can produce absolute dregs of society; likewise, some kids are able to thrive despite a shitty hand they are dealt. I see it every single day.
None of us know the details of Johnny's formative years, or the circumstances that have led him down this self-destructive path. I think it's safe to say his father knows him better than any windbags on a discussion board. I'll defer to his judgment that tough love may be the last best option to wake-up his kid. He may be right, or he may be wrong. In the end though, it's Johnny, not his dad, who will be the one to either figure things out--or not. Quote:
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Without it, I have no idea of how my life would be today but it certainly wouldn't be the same. |
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Don't you think he would have said as much? All he's said to date is that if his son doesn't get help, he'll be dead within a year and recently, that his son is a druggie and needs to go to jail.
Why didn't he say "I've been tracking and following my son all over the country and I'm doing my best to convince him that he needs help now, not later"? |
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I have known twins with the exact same upbringing. One of which became a total junkie, the other, a very successful member of society.
It is very often that parenting plays a huge role, but some of the best parents ever can still produce people like Johnny. |
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It's a lie that his son has more money.
Secondly, there isn't a parent in the world with any common sense that would believe that their child would be in a"better" place if he was in prison. That's just utter stupidity. And finally, no one would give a shit if the guy wasn't a star college athlete and chosen in the first round NFL draft. There are offspring of wealthy parents around the world that party and use recreational drugs everyday and those parents aren't calling for them to be incarcerated. His father sounds like a jackass. |
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06-26-2016, 12:06 PM | #58 |
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I suspect it's because he feels differently. There is a certain kinship between same-gender parents and children that develops more into a friendship, especially with age. However, what you said is true...too many parents are solely focused on being their child's "friend." It's particularly bad practice during the children's formative years. As adults, a more friend-like relationship does seem to develop--especially with same gender children.
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What you're describing sounds like someone without a conscience. I can't claim to know anyone like that, either, but if I did, I certainly didn't know the person well. |
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If the Chiefs had drafted Manziel this would have never happened. The Browns are where QBs go to die. I think him being a Brown destroyed his enthusiasm and he turned to drugs. being Josh Gordons teammate didn't help.
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