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Old 08-24-2016, 11:58 AM  
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Bosa rejects Chargers "best" offer
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Chargers proposed to Joey Bosa what they made clear is their best offer, source says. It was declined. Offer pulled. Two sides are nowhere.
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Old 08-24-2016, 03:05 PM   #136
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No what they're REALLY arguing over is deferring his money in case he gets injured or busts because they're trying to protect themselves over a matter of 3 million dollars that he'll get anyway.

There's no way around that this is a bad contract. The number 2 and 4 guys also signed a bad contract. You're siding with the Chargers on this who are obviously in the wrong.
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Old 08-24-2016, 03:06 PM   #137
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I don't get the big deal. He wants what, 17mil up front?

The Chargers offer 10 this year and 7 next?

How is that so bad? Are the wheels going to fall off after year one and he's not expecting to be back?

Sure, its not what the Jones's do across the street, but ****, he'll still get the money eventually. He just has to be a little better than a sack of shit to be brought back for year #2
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This.

This is the correct answer for this situation.
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Just because Wentz and Elliot are fine with getting dicked around doesn't mean Bosa shouldn't demand what literally every top 5 pick from 2011-2015 got.
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No what they're REALLY arguing over is deferring his money in case he gets injured or busts because they're trying to protect themselves over a matter of 3 million dollars that he'll get anyway.

There's no way around that this is a bad contract. The number 2 and 4 guys also signed a bad contract. You're siding with the Chargers on this who are obviously in the wrong.
bullshit. The offer is fine. It's pointless haggling on BOTH sides though.
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The offer is not fine. At all.
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The offer is not fine. At all.
Bullshit. He's getting what his slot dictates he gets and if isn't a complete bum will get every damn penny.
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Just because Wentz and Elliot are fine with getting dicked around doesn't mean Bosa shouldn't demand what literally every top 5 pick from 2011-2015 got.
Dicked around?
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The offer is not fine. At all.
I'd take it.
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Old 08-24-2016, 03:24 PM   #145
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Dicked around?
They sure didn't waste time signing. Guess they have confidence in their abilities.
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They sure didn't waste time signing. Guess they have confidence in their abilities.
That, and nobody else on earth that's willing to pay them anywhere near that amount to do anything else.
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This is skewed data. I've stated this already.

2013 was the first draft under the new CBA.

2013 #3 Overall: Dolphins

2014 #3 Overall: Jaguars

2015: #3 Overall: Jaguars


As i have stated, the Jaguars are ONE of TWO teams, out of 32, that does not do deferred payments regardless of where they pick. So when your redit poster is babbling on and on, he fails to realize this fact.

So your example is useless. 2 out of the 3 #3 overalls were made by the Jags. No precedent has been set.
Even if you take out the Jags, you are still left with the fact that most other top 5 teams have included either up front signing bonus or no offset language

Offering a contract with offset language and a deferred signing bonus for a top 5 pick is the exception, and certainly has not been the "precedent" of the huge majority of other teams that have picked high recently

Again this is the Chargers going the cheap route that they have done many times before
Tomlinson, Rivers, Merriman, etc...
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Again this is the Chargers going the cheap route that they have done many times before
Tomlinson, Rivers, Merriman, etc...
I'm sure those guys all regret signing their rookie contracts.
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