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11-14-2016, 04:53 PM | #31 |
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Oh my, just realized I forgot the pick for Chase Daniel... no wonder you've been questioning Direckshun... Sweet Jeebus... My brain has been in a fog lately, too much personal shit going on to be with it.
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12-08-2016, 05:27 PM | #32 |
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Updated 12/8... Some small changes, enjoy.
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12-09-2016, 01:09 AM | #33 |
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Whelp. Especially after tonight it's hard to argue against that. This seems like a good draft for ILB, right? I haven't been following college football too much, but Cunningham, Foster, and Jarrad Davis all seem like good prospects
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12-09-2016, 12:16 PM | #34 |
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I can't help but think this is a waste of resources.
As it stands right now, we have a projected depth in 2017 of Houston, Ford, Hali, and Nicholas at OLB. You're throwing a 2nd rounder at it a year too soon. We'll have an ILB corps of Wilson, Mauga, March, and Alexander and DJ will likely return midway through the 2017 season. You're throwing a 1st at it too soon. This draft really is the perfect opportunity to throw high resources at QB and DL. Dorsey will almost certainly draft DL first, at the risk of losing Poe and Howard after 2017. Though, if he somehow signs Poe, which you've projected, I think that makes CB priority 1B (with QBotF at 1A). |
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12-09-2016, 01:02 PM | #35 |
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First three picks are absolutely balls!
Cunningham is awesome. Even if they have to move up for him, he's the best ILB in this draft and fits Dorsey's prototype at the position. Dimnick is a beast and is Tamba Hali. Awuzie would be the perfect compliment to Peters and would be a really amazing fit for Sutton's defense. Best college CB I've seen this year by a long shot. |
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12-09-2016, 01:22 PM | #36 |
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12-09-2016, 02:20 PM | #37 |
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If it broke like that dudes mock I'd hope the Chiefs picked Watson...
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12-09-2016, 05:13 PM | #38 |
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I disagree, so I'll break this into parts. 1. IF Hali doesn't retire, I'd be extremely surprised. He's definitely lost more than a step at this point and he's been making very marginal contributions. I really don't think his knees hold up another season. I don't think you count on him for much if he does stick around one more year. Nicholas is very undersized and may be a very situational player most of his career. I'm not writing him off yet, but I don't have high hopes that he'll ever amount to much more than a special teams guy that might give you a few snaps a game in relief duty. I think we've seen what a detriment it can be to not have adequate depth, and I think you're grasping at straws thinking there is much more there than Ford and Houston. We've got Ford locked up for 2 more seasons if KC exercises his option, which is a perfect amount of time to develop a guy behind him. If Ford keeps posting 10+ sack seasons, I doubt they'll pay Houston 20 million per and pay Ford. So, quality depth and the future in mind, I am confident in defending an OLB pick. Truth be told, I was hoping Dimick would be a guy that would be kind of a sleeper that you could get as a mid-rounder, but he absolutely shit on guys once again this year and he's no secret any longer. His draft stock will soar in the off-season. 2. Thinking DJ will return on the playing field might just be a bit more premature than any draft pick I prognosticate. All signs point to him being done. He's going to be 35 years old coming off his 2nd Achilles tear. If you thought he lost a step after his first tear, he's going to look like a tortoise after the second. I wouldn't count on him every playing again. Mauga is a second rate defender everyone here loved to bag on and couldn't wait for the Chiefs to replace, but he is okay against the run. From what I understand, 2017 is a void option on Mauga's contract, so we'll see what even happens there. It is very possible Mauga isn't back, and even if he is why defend his starting position? Ramik Wilson has shown some promise, but he's appeared to be a huge liability against the run so far. I don't think you can say, with an honest face, that he's your bell cow at ILB. He might be serviceable, but he's not the face of the defense and he's not a tone setter. D.J. Alexander hasn't flashed anything yet that even remotely suggests he's more than a nice special teams guy. So, I'm trying to figure out who you're really pinning your hopes to at ILB. I mean, there are guys here to fill roles. There aren't guys here to be difference makers. KC could use a true difference maker that can stuff the run on the inside. There are several A quality ILBs in this draft and KC would be wise to choose one of them. 3. This is not a quality QB draft. To have any hopes of 1st round potential players, there needs to be several Junior declarations. History has shown that Juniors seldom fair well, especially early in their careers. Good thing for KC is that they'd have time to develop one. The negative is that the few Juniors that do show plus traits will likely get snapped up by QB needy teams much earlier than they should. Good luck with spending early resources on a QB. I don't think there is a 1st round defensive tackle that makes sense for KC. Closest would be Lotulelei, but Dorsey hasn't shown the desire to take short armed players with any picks. I think the 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounds will have some value at the position. I do agree with you that Dorsey takes a couple defensive lineman in this draft, but I don't expect that to be the 1st or 2nd round necessarily. Cornerback might be your best argument in round 1, as value and need kind of align there. Guys like Adoree Jackson, Cordrea Tankersley, Cam Sutton, and Gareon Conley all make some sense at the end of the first. So far, KC appears to have a need to find a #2 CB opposite Peters. Value appears to go deep at CB in this draft though, well into the 3rd round. |
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CB is so strong. Not sure if Dorsey would pass that kinda talent at CB. Imagine that paired with Peters?
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Utah's Tim Patrick is a better option than Pascal.
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I know Dorsey/Reid like to draft a QB every year, but personally I would rather use the pick on someone who is more likely to stick on the roster unless we draft one high in the draft. Until we finally have the balls to grab a QBOTF in the 1st (or 2nd) I'd rather use our available resources on someone who could at the very least contribute on special teams. We've had enough of nobodies like Murray and Hogan.
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Let's be honest here if he falls Watson is a pretty good fit for the Chiefs offense, he'd get roughly 2 years before he had to play and Smith's to the point that we need to think about someone to take over soon.
Overall this is a really important draft for a lot of reasons but finding a real QB that can take the job is super important. |
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