Chiefs Ten Reason's why The Chiefs Lost - Page 7

**jjchieffan** · 01:30 PM

With my apologies to GBlowfish, I have my own 10 things list that I would like to share. Because there is plenty of blame to go around. I present, 10 reasons why the Chiefs lost…Again (Other than because Chiefs, that's obvious!)

10. Defense unable to make a stop. I would like to start by saying that the defense did well at keeping the Pittsburgh offense out of the endzone. Holding them to 18 points should have been enough. But it wasn’t/ The fact remains that they forced one punt the entire night. One! That is unacceptable. They force one more punt and the final score is 17-15 Chiefs and we win. So the defense is partly accountable.

9. Still on the defense here. Justin Houston on Antonio Brown?? Really??? You would think that Sutton would have realized that was a bad idea when Ben to Brown resulted in the longest play of the night in the first quarter. But not Sutton. Hey. I have a great idea. The game is on the line. Let’s try that coverage again. Surely it will work this time. SMH. Sutton has done well this year with covering losses to 4 of our front 7 to IR, but he deserves his share of the blame for this loss.

8. No pass rush. Dee Ford was tearing things up until Houston returned. Houston looked like his old self for exactly one game this year. He should be over his injury. VonDouchebag stepped up when it mattered for the Donks. Our passrushers were no where to be found. Unacceptable. They too share in the blame.

7. Special teams. This one actually belongs at number 10. They didn’t make huge mistakes, but they didn’t make any plays either. We have got arguably the best returner and best special teams coordinator in the league. Pittsburgh is known for not very good special teams. But it sure didn’t look that way in our failure of a game. Hill only got one chance at a punt return, so there’s nothing to say about that. But when he tried to return kicks, our blockers got blown up. He never made it to the 25, so every return was a net loss. With the way our offense was playing, we needed every bit of field position we could get and the special teams failed to deliver. Therefore, they too share in the blame. A much smaller share, but nonetheless a share of the blame is theirs.

6. Officiating. Again, a very small portion of the blame goes here. I hate to blame officiating at all, because it’s more excuse making than anything else. Good teams should be able to overcome it. That said, the refs sure weren’t doing us any favors. Pittsburgh was blatantly holding all night and never gets called, but we get called for a ticky tack hold to negate a game tying 2 point conversion? I call BS. Then there were 2 blatant DPI’s in the 3rd quarter that it is just unbelievable that the ref’s could just ignore them. Once again, we were capable of overcoming that. We did, in fact. A couple of times. But not nearly enough. So, even though I hate the excuses, I also award a small share of the blame to the officiating.

5. Travis Kelce. Kelce is a stud. Believed by most to be one of the best tight ends in the NFL. But dude, you have got to grow up. That 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty was totally unacceptable. Luckily, Smith threw a 26 yard pass to overcome it and get the first down anyway, but those kind of things are hard to overcome, and we needed every yard last night. Kelce also had 1, maybe 2 critical drops last night. In the biggest game of his career, he let his team down. Travis Kelce, you too deserve your share of the blame.

4. The offensive line. For most of the first half, Smith was under constant pressure. The hit on Smith as he threw the ball resulting in the interception was completely on the line. Fisher may have had his worst game of the year last night. Maybe his hold that negated the 2 point conversion doesn’t get called 99 times out of 100, but it got called and it cost the Chiefs the game. They also were horrible at run blocking. There were no holes for our running backs all night. Offensive line., you too deserve your share of the blame.

3. Alex Smith. I am mostly neutral about Smith, but tend to leaning more in favor of him than against him. I’ve seen him step up and play like an elite quarterback, but those instances are rare. And that’s what frustrates me. I know that he is capable. But he just doesn’t do it enough. Last night, he was great on the opening drive. That drive was executed to perfection and gave us all hope for the night. But then he disappeared for the next 3 quarters. Granted, he was under a lot of pressure, but the franchise quarterbacks make some of their greatest plays under pressure. Smith did finally move the ball in the 4th quarter. He made some nice throws, like the 25 yard pass on 3rd and 25 after the Kelce screw up. And let’s not forget about delay of game. In the end, he didn’t do enough to bring us the victory, and he too deserves his share of the blame.

2. Drops. If I remember right, we had 5 drops last night by 4 players. And most of those drops were game changers. We have some real playmakers on this offense. This was their time to shine. One or two of those drops get caught, and we’re likely preparing for New England instead of next season.

1. Andy Friggin Reid. Ugh! I am so frustrated with Reid right now. I could almost do a top 10 just on how he cost us the game. Where do I start? Let’s start with his play calling. Pittsburgh has an inexperienced secondary that is vulnerable to the deep pass. We have Hill, who is a legitimate deep threat. Yet we never even tried one deep pass the entire first half! Why?? Because of the pressure on Smith? Call it anyway. Once they see that we are willing to go downfield, they will have to respect that. Then the short yardage stuff will open up. Notice how we moved the ball downfield when we started going deep in the 4th quarter? If Reid had done that sooner, we would have won this game easy. Ugh! So frustrating. Speaking of the 4th quarter, don’t get me started on the 7 minute drive while trailing. While on the subject of time management, we blew 2 critical timeouts in the 4th quarter. Both of them I believe to avoid delay of game. We are the Home team!! That is supposed to happen to the road team. Could you not get the plays in quick enough? Totally Unacceptable. Then there was the decision to kickoff deep after the last touchdown. I know that the onside kick is a low probability kick. But when we had force only one punt all night and there we sat with 1 time out and 2:43 on the clock(again, thanks to poor clock management), stopping them was also a low probability. If the onside kick failed, well we gave up field position. They only needed one first down to ice the game anyway. Everyone deserves their share of the blame. But Andy Reid deserves the lion’s share.

DJ's left nut · 01-17-2017, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

And our team has NEVER done that. When the **** have we ever gone out on that field and just knocked the shit out of someone?

The Broncos game that we lost in 2013. It was in mile-high and I think it was Manning's second year. We spent that whole game just taking it to guys. All those rub routes and underneath routes were met with a DB or Linebacker just laying the wood to whoever came across.

It was a prime-time game and the team came out looking to send a message. Still lost, but they weren't intimidated.

**The Franchise** · 01-17-2017, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

There was a moment in the 3rd quarter where RNR and Hali were standing on the sidelines waiving their arms and trying to get the fans pumped up.

I turned to the guy next to me and asked why the hell we should get fired up when that was the most energy those guy had shown all night.

Aggravating as all hell and the whole way home that game made me ask myself why I care at all. I've never been one of the fans that is so cynical that I fall into the "we care more than the players do" trap. But after that game I just don't know what else to conclude.

Not a pleasant impression to take away from a home playoff game.

Looked like Chris Jones was the only one that cared at all.

DJ's left nut · 01-17-2017, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Looked like Chris Jones was the only one that cared at all.

Another no-show in the post-season from Poe.

I don't give a **** if he stays or goes at this point. I'm done with this supposed behemoth of a human being getting handled one on one. Just how good can the guy be if our run defense was utter shite all season?

Plug Vince Wilfork's fat ass in there to just be enormous and you'd have accomplished more than Poe was able to accomplish in the middle this year.

**The Franchise** · 01-17-2017, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Another no-show in the post-season from Poe.

I don't give a **** if he stays or goes at this point. I'm done with this supposed behemoth of a human being getting handled one on one. Just how good can the guy be if our run defense was utter shite all season?

Plug Vince Wilfork's fat ass in there to just be enormous and you'd have accomplished more than Poe was able to accomplish in the middle this year.

If Poe wants anything north of $10 million a season......let him go and plug Jaye Howard at NT. Bailey - Howard - Jones

**jjchieffan** · 01-17-2017, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

If Poe wants anything north of $10 million a season......let him go and plug Jaye Howard at NT. Bailey - Howard - Jones

I agree. But honestly, can the cap even handle paying him $10 million per season? That's a pretty hefty contract. With what we are already paying Smith and Houston, and likely to be paying Berry, that just seems like a cap crippling move. I like Poe. He's a hell of a NT. But at $10 million per year I just can't justify it. Not with how tight or cap is already.

COchief · 01-17-2017, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

If Poe wants anything north of $10 million a season......let him go and plug Jaye Howard at NT. Bailey - Howard - Jones

I'm firmly set on letting him take a stroll. His invisible play (other than the Tebow) this year, back issues, and apparent goal of eating himself out of the league are enough for me to say peace out. I think fans sort of fell in love with him due to his likability and impressive performance his first couple of years. I feel we are fairly stacked at the D-line with some young talent and guys returning from injury that make the risk unnecessary. Some team will overpay and we should come out with a 3rd round comp pick. I am also still really pissed that we let Irving go to the Cowboys, he would really help soften any potential blow along the D-line. Poe used to punish double teams his first couple years, now any average guard/center can handle him with ease.

DJ's left nut · 01-17-2017, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

If Poe wants anything north of $10 million a season......let him go and plug Jaye Howard at NT. Bailey - Howard - Jones

Fortunately I'm not a GM.

Because I'd just take my phone off the hook until draft day and tell any free agent involved in that clown show that they can go take playoff games off somewhere else.

Anybody that's a FA this year has now been a part of 3 absolute abortions in the playoffs, especially the guys on the defense.

Seriously, I just don't give a ****. I know I'm in the easily irritable post-playoff stages but I just don't care. EB - we can blow massive leads without you just the same as we could with you. Poe - as much fun as watching you get butt-****ed by non-descript interior lineman every January has been, I'm pretty sure we can find a street FA capable of accomplishing absolutely nothing when the lights are bright.

Houston, Maclin, Smith....man, cut all of them and right this very second I would give precisely zero ****s. I'm so tired of key players on this team wilting when it matters.

**The Franchise** · 01-17-2017, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

I agree. But honestly, can the cap even handle paying him $10 million per season? That's a pretty hefty contract. With what we are already paying Smith and Houston, and likely to be paying Berry, that just seems like a cap crippling move. I like Poe. He's a hell of a NT. But at $10 million per year I just can't justify it. Not with how tight or cap is already.

If it were up to me....

1. Extend Foles. Take his $10M and turn it into a signing bonus over 3 years.
2. Trade or cut Smith.
3. If Charles won't take a paycut....he's gone.
4. Cut: Hali, Zombo and Jah Reid.
5. Re-sign Berry.

**jjchieffan** · 01-17-2017, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

If it were up to me....

1. Extend Foles. Take his $10M and turn it into a signing bonus over 3 years.
2. Trade or cut Smith.
3. If Charles won't take a paycut....he's gone.
4. Cut: Hali, Zombo and Jah Reid.
5. Re-sign Berry.

I agree with all of it. But, as it's been said. Hali's salary is guaranteed this year. We gain nothing by cutting him. He's a part of this team regardless of team no matter how much or how little he has left.

kcfanXIII · 01-17-2017, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hitchief

another brilliant post. This is not midget football FCS! Have to set protection and sometimes change the stinking play if your play called will fail against the D that is right in front of them.

Like call a hot route to Hill when he's got a ****ing linebacker covering him up? Oh, wait, Alice didn't do that.... He didn't even look at Hill.

RunKC · 01-17-2017, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Fortunately I'm not a GM.

Because I'd just take my phone off the hook until draft day and tell any free agent involved in that clown show that they can go take playoff games off somewhere else.

Anybody that's a FA this year has now been a part of 3 absolute abortions in the playoffs, especially the guys on the defense.

Seriously, I just don't give a ****. I know I'm in the easily irritable post-playoff stages but I just don't care. EB - we can blow massive leads without you just the same as we could with you. Poe - as much fun as watching you get butt-****ed by non-descript interior lineman every January has been, I'm pretty sure we can find a street FA capable of accomplishing absolutely nothing when the lights are bright.

Houston, Maclin, Smith....man, cut all of them and right this very second I would give precisely zero ****s. I'm so tired of key players on this team wilting when it matters.

Why are people upset with Maclin? He made a clutch catch to nullify Kelce's dumbassery and was wide the **** open for a clear TD that Alex ****ed up bc he threw it back shoulder

O.city · 01-17-2017, 12:29 PM

I've made a few posts since Sunday I think, maybe not, don't really remember. Gonna make this one, then be out for a while to recharge or butt **** myself or something. I dunno.

But holy shit **** what happened? We got ass raped vs the run and the offense sucked.

Enough with the foles or the whatever else. Draft a guy, play him. End of story. Keep smith a year if you want, frankly, I think I'd run the rookie out there. If he can't be successful with the skill guys they've got, don't draft him.

**** this sucks. Why the shit do we put ourselves thru this ass cancer of a franchise suck.

****

FloridaMan88 · 01-17-2017, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BeeHo

Agreed.

However, there's only one QB that can consistently overcome so many problems. It's Aaron Rodgers as you said. And there's only one Aaron Rodgers.

And he plays for GB whose name is Aaron Rodgers.

Tom Brady as well.

COchief · 01-17-2017, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

If it were up to me....

1. Extend Foles. Take his $10M and turn it into a signing bonus over 3 years.
2. Trade or cut Smith.
3. If Charles won't take a paycut....he's gone.
4. Cut: Hali, Wilson and Jah Reid.
5. Re-sign Berry.

You misspelled Albert's name, I especially liked how he impersonated a competent football player for a handful of plays this season only to show his true fraidy cat colors when we desperately needed a third down by dropping an easy pass that hit him in the hands.

Zombo gets shit on a lot for performing exactly to his pay grade, he is a valuable special teams player and reliable backup which is precisely what he's paid to be. Plus, he was one of the few defenders to actually make a play on Sunday. Could his position be upgraded? Absolutely. Will he ever develop into anything more? No. He's the unsexy Terrance Copper of our roster, everyone wants to shit on him but Dorsey/Toub/Reid apparently all think he does his job well enough to keep it.

Gaines/West/Wilson/Davis would all be on my cut list ahead of him.

O.city · 01-17-2017, 12:40 PM

My dad summed it up best yesterday.

"It was the chiefs annual January groin punch. You don't know when it's coming, but in your nuts, you feel it and know, it's coming".

01-16-2017, 01:22 PM
jjchieffan Supporter Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Highlandville, MO Casino cash: $32248	Ten Reason's why The Chiefs Lost With my apologies to GBlowfish, I have my own 10 things list that I would like to share. Because there is plenty of blame to go around. I present, 10 reasons why the Chiefs lost…Again (Other than because Chiefs, that's obvious!) 10. Defense unable to make a stop. I would like to start by saying that the defense did well at keeping the Pittsburgh offense out of the endzone. Holding them to 18 points should have been enough. But it wasn’t/ The fact remains that they forced one punt the entire night. One! That is unacceptable. They force one more punt and the final score is 17-15 Chiefs and we win. So the defense is partly accountable. 9. Still on the defense here. Justin Houston on Antonio Brown?? Really??? You would think that Sutton would have realized that was a bad idea when Ben to Brown resulted in the longest play of the night in the first quarter. But not Sutton. Hey. I have a great idea. The game is on the line. Let’s try that coverage again. Surely it will work this time. SMH. Sutton has done well this year with covering losses to 4 of our front 7 to IR, but he deserves his share of the blame for this loss. 8. No pass rush. Dee Ford was tearing things up until Houston returned. Houston looked like his old self for exactly one game this year. He should be over his injury. VonDouchebag stepped up when it mattered for the Donks. Our passrushers were no where to be found. Unacceptable. They too share in the blame. 7. Special teams. This one actually belongs at number 10. They didn’t make huge mistakes, but they didn’t make any plays either. We have got arguably the best returner and best special teams coordinator in the league. Pittsburgh is known for not very good special teams. But it sure didn’t look that way in our failure of a game. Hill only got one chance at a punt return, so there’s nothing to say about that. But when he tried to return kicks, our blockers got blown up. He never made it to the 25, so every return was a net loss. With the way our offense was playing, we needed every bit of field position we could get and the special teams failed to deliver. Therefore, they too share in the blame. A much smaller share, but nonetheless a share of the blame is theirs. 6. Officiating. Again, a very small portion of the blame goes here. I hate to blame officiating at all, because it’s more excuse making than anything else. Good teams should be able to overcome it. That said, the refs sure weren’t doing us any favors. Pittsburgh was blatantly holding all night and never gets called, but we get called for a ticky tack hold to negate a game tying 2 point conversion? I call BS. Then there were 2 blatant DPI’s in the 3rd quarter that it is just unbelievable that the ref’s could just ignore them. Once again, we were capable of overcoming that. We did, in fact. A couple of times. But not nearly enough. So, even though I hate the excuses, I also award a small share of the blame to the officiating. 5. Travis Kelce. Kelce is a stud. Believed by most to be one of the best tight ends in the NFL. But dude, you have got to grow up. That 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty was totally unacceptable. Luckily, Smith threw a 26 yard pass to overcome it and get the first down anyway, but those kind of things are hard to overcome, and we needed every yard last night. Kelce also had 1, maybe 2 critical drops last night. In the biggest game of his career, he let his team down. Travis Kelce, you too deserve your share of the blame. 4. The offensive line. For most of the first half, Smith was under constant pressure. The hit on Smith as he threw the ball resulting in the interception was completely on the line. Fisher may have had his worst game of the year last night. Maybe his hold that negated the 2 point conversion doesn’t get called 99 times out of 100, but it got called and it cost the Chiefs the game. They also were horrible at run blocking. There were no holes for our running backs all night. Offensive line., you too deserve your share of the blame. 3. Alex Smith. I am mostly neutral about Smith, but tend to leaning more in favor of him than against him. I’ve seen him step up and play like an elite quarterback, but those instances are rare. And that’s what frustrates me. I know that he is capable. But he just doesn’t do it enough. Last night, he was great on the opening drive. That drive was executed to perfection and gave us all hope for the night. But then he disappeared for the next 3 quarters. Granted, he was under a lot of pressure, but the franchise quarterbacks make some of their greatest plays under pressure. Smith did finally move the ball in the 4th quarter. He made some nice throws, like the 25 yard pass on 3rd and 25 after the Kelce screw up. And let’s not forget about delay of game. In the end, he didn’t do enough to bring us the victory, and he too deserves his share of the blame. 2. Drops. If I remember right, we had 5 drops last night by 4 players. And most of those drops were game changers. We have some real playmakers on this offense. This was their time to shine. One or two of those drops get caught, and we’re likely preparing for New England instead of next season. 1. Andy Friggin Reid. Ugh! I am so frustrated with Reid right now. I could almost do a top 10 just on how he cost us the game. Where do I start? Let’s start with his play calling. Pittsburgh has an inexperienced secondary that is vulnerable to the deep pass. We have Hill, who is a legitimate deep threat. Yet we never even tried one deep pass the entire first half! Why?? Because of the pressure on Smith? Call it anyway. Once they see that we are willing to go downfield, they will have to respect that. Then the short yardage stuff will open up. Notice how we moved the ball downfield when we started going deep in the 4th quarter? If Reid had done that sooner, we would have won this game easy. Ugh! So frustrating. Speaking of the 4th quarter, don’t get me started on the 7 minute drive while trailing. While on the subject of time management, we blew 2 critical timeouts in the 4th quarter. Both of them I believe to avoid delay of game. We are the Home team!! That is supposed to happen to the road team. Could you not get the plays in quick enough? Totally Unacceptable. Then there was the decision to kickoff deep after the last touchdown. I know that the onside kick is a low probability kick. But when we had force only one punt all night and there we sat with 1 time out and 2:43 on the clock(again, thanks to poor clock management), stopping them was also a low probability. If the onside kick failed, well we gave up field position. They only needed one first down to ice the game anyway. Everyone deserves their share of the blame. But Andy Reid deserves the lion’s share. Last edited by jjchieffan; 01-16-2017 at 01:30 PM..
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01-17-2017, 12:29 PM	#102
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-585936	I've made a few posts since Sunday I think, maybe not, don't really remember. Gonna make this one, then be out for a while to recharge or butt ** myself or something. I dunno. But holy shit what happened? We got ass raped vs the run and the offense sucked. Enough with the foles or the whatever else. Draft a guy, play him. End of story. Keep smith a year if you want, frankly, I think I'd run the rookie out there. If he can't be successful with the skill guys they've got, don't draft him. this sucks. Why the shit do we put ourselves thru this ass cancer of a franchise suck. **
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-585936	My dad summed it up best yesterday. "It was the chiefs annual January groin punch. You don't know when it's coming, but in your nuts, you feel it and know, it's coming".
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