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02-16-2017, 12:57 PM | #2102 |
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(Who's derailing the thread?)
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02-16-2017, 01:04 PM | #2103 |
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The next person that posts ANYTHING about who's a troll, who's derailing a thread, or ANY ****ING DRAMA AT ALL will be permanently banned from this thread.
Enough is enough.
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On the flip side, they ran out of gas at the end. Kluber and Miller both got beat up in game 7 and they lost the World Series. Of course they don't get there without leaning on those guys. But I'm sure if you asked Francona he would've loved to have had a deeper team so he didn't basically have to lean on the same 4-5 pitchers for three weeks. |
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02-16-2017, 01:20 PM | #2105 |
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My Ned postseason gripes were way down in '15 ... Only thing that comes to mind was Madson pitching to Bautista ... But even that led to the iconic Cain scoring from first on a single, so...
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02-16-2017, 01:21 PM | #2106 |
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...and in '14, we won the first 8 games lol. I thought he managed Games 4 and 7 in the WS horrendously, though.
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02-16-2017, 01:44 PM | #2107 | |
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He made up for it in Game 4 the following year. He had no problems pitching Hoch two days in a row with Game 5 looming (and he pitched Hoch for 2 in that one anyway), and went for the kill in Game 4 instead of worrying about the next. Ned, without a doubt, ran a managing clinic around Terry Collins and deserves a lot of credit for our championship. His management of Game 3 could have perhaps been cleaner, but his moves in all of our victories deserve praise and recognition. |
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However, the decision to leave Madson in against Bautista infuriated the hell out of me. I can't remember who else was available or warming up in the pen, but Madson, for as good as he was for us in '15, got shelled by the Jays ALL year and I lost my ****ing mind when Bautista hit that 2-run shot. October baseball, man. |
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game 17 in '14 he should have known before the game he had 6 innings to lean on the cyborgs ...
it was criminal sticking with Guthrie the way he did to let them get the lead and the ball over to Madbum still sickens me to this day no way you put Guthrie in to start the 4th when you ended up pitching Herrera 2.1 IP and Davis 2 IP ...you got through 3 at 2-2 ... no see if you can get 6-7 IP scoreless out of the borgs and then if you have to start pitching Finnegan or anybody else in extras because the game is tied then so be it but starting Guthrie against the heart of their order in the 4th was a joke |
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I never really get on the manager too much from 1-162 ... Ned is a premiere big league manager because of the way he handles the clubhouse. That's huge.
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Completely agree. I used to hate Ned, but he won me over in 2014. Partly for the obvious reason of the trip to the World Series, but also because he knows how to build teams that are stronger than the sum of their parts.
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Herrera had just pitched an inning and two thirds, and had never pitched over two innings since 2012 (though he would against the Mets the following week). Ned had planned on using Davis, but the previous innings ran long and it looked like KC would get hit with an hour rain delay between Davis' innings (and the forecast was dead on). With the potential for Davis to be erratic after the layoff and the long-term injury risk (something that certainly makes one look at 2016 differently), Ned explained in the press conference that while the plan was to go to Davis for two, he felt forced to go to Madson due to circumstance. If it were me, I probably would have gone to Davis for the heart of the order in the eighth and worried about the 9th inning when it got there. I probably would have left Davis in for the 9th but would have been tempted to yank him for Hoch when the tying run reached the on deck circle (a decision that could have easily backfired). I ended up giving Ned a slight reprieve after he articulated his rationale and the thought behind a decision he came to with Waka and Eiland. On Romo's note.. Ned's decision to let the players express their diverse personalities in 2012 is what ultimately made me leap all aboard the Yost train. The chemistry of the locker room matters a lot over 162 games, and Ned helped lead one of the best and most supportive locker rooms in baseball. Last edited by Chiefspants; 02-16-2017 at 02:08 PM.. |
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02-16-2017, 02:01 PM | #2113 |
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I don't normally feel bad for another fan base, KC fans had it as hard as anyone else prior to a couple years ago.
But I can't help but feel for diehard Brewers fans who had to watch the manager that their team fired 2 weeks before the postseason, Esky, and Lorenzo win back-to-back pennants and a title. I'd be livid. Though, from what I have read about him, Yost changed his managerial philosophy big-time after coming to KC. So maybe his value sky-rocketed once he made that change. |
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But Ned DOES seem to really know how to manage a clubhouse, keep guys loose, and the players do all seem to genuinely love playing for him. That counts for a lot, as far as I'm concerned. |
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It would have taken a damn while to bounce back, especially if 2016 through the present day progressed the same way. |
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