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Old 06-25-2016, 05:22 PM  
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Johnny Manziel’s Father Hopes Son Goes to Jail. Calls him a "druggie"
Johnny Manziel’s family has had enough of the NFL free agent quarterback’s ever-growing list of trouble. The former Cleveland Browns quarterback was back in the news this week after he was involved in another hit-and-run accident. And to make matters worse for him, his lawyer, Bob Hinton, accidentally sent a damaging text to The Associated Press. The text, which in part said “Heaven help us if one of the conditions is to pee in a bottle,” also mentioned a potential plea deal in Manziel’s domestic violence case and that the QB spent more than $1,000 on drug paraphernalia shortly after the hit-and-run.

Manziel’s father, Paul, was quite candid about the situation when ESPN’s Josina Anderson asked him Friday for a comment. “He’s a druggie. It’s not a secret that he’s a druggie,” Paul Manziel said in a phone interview Friday. “I don’t know what to say other than my son is a druggie and he needs help. He just hasn’t (sought) it yet. Hopefully he doesn’t die before he comes to his senses. That’s about all you can say. I don’t know what else to say. … “I had him in rehab and he escaped and the doctors let him go, and that is a whole other story. So I mean I had him (in rehab) and the system failed. It didn’t work. “He has more money than me, so he can outrun me. Like I said, there are two things that are going to happen: He’s either going to die, or he’s going to figure out that he needs help. It’s one of the two. But we’ve done everything that we can do. Life goes on. You can’t just chase somebody that’s not willing to listen. The story is not going to change. It’s the same. … “I mean, I hate to say it, but I hope he goes to jail. I mean, that would be the best place for him.”

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Old 03-01-2017, 01:26 PM   #136
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Old 03-01-2017, 02:07 PM   #137
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If there's any coach I could see taking a shot on him....it'd be Reid.
No sir.

Reid doesn't mind character issues, but what he treasures above all is dependability.

Vick was a monster of a human being, but he showed up to work every day and worked very hard.

Manziel does not have that in him.
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Old 03-01-2017, 02:08 PM   #138
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How can he go to the combine again?
He's not there, his agent is.
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Old 03-01-2017, 02:11 PM   #139
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Old 03-01-2017, 03:40 PM   #140
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No sir.

Reid doesn't mind character issues, but what he treasures above all is dependability.

Vick was a monster of a human being, but he showed up to work every day and worked very hard.

Manziel does not have that in him.

And How do you know this ? By reading the internet ?
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Old 03-01-2017, 03:54 PM   #141
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While I don't think it's his parents fault all together, if you asked his dad if he would do anything different in raising him, I'll bet that he'd go on and on about things he wishes he could do over. That being said, it's partly Johnny's fault, partly his coaches fault, partly his friends and families fault.

Values are learned. They are learned from the people around you. I'm fairly confident that he was coddled by coaches and teachers, so as to not ruin his chances of playing when he was younger. Same with the parents and friends. When you grow up thinking you can get away with anything, then what the hell did everyone expect when he grew up?
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Old 03-01-2017, 03:57 PM   #142
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While I don't think it's his parents fault all together, if you asked his dad if he would do anything different in raising him, I'll bet that he'd go on and on about things he wishes he could do over. That being said, it's partly Johnny's fault, partly his coaches fault, partly his friends and families fault.

Values are learned. They are learned from the people around you. I'm fairly confident that he was coddled by coaches and teachers, so as to not ruin his chances of playing when he was younger. Same with the parents and friends. When you grow up thinking you can get away with anything, then what the hell did everyone expect when he grew up?
You didn't mention the Cleveland browns , an organization that has ruined EVERY player ever drafted by them. They even ruined Dwayne Bowe !
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Old 03-01-2017, 03:59 PM   #143
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He. Isn't. Good.

The guy was playing behind an NFL line with NFL skill position players in college. He wasn't running an offense as much as he was running around with his hair on fire and chucking the damn thing downfield.

He's too small to be durable and doesn't have premier arm strength. His brand of playground football will work on shitty teams that are just running around killing time but if you run a structured offense with real expectations, the guy's going to be a disaster.

I don't care if he's cleaned up - he's just not a good quarterback.
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He. Isn't. Good.

The guy was playing behind an NFL line with NFL skill position players in college. He wasn't running an offense as much as he was running around with his hair on fire and chucking the damn thing downfield.

He's too small to be durable and doesn't have premier arm strength. His brand of playground football will work on shitty teams that are just running around killing time but if you run a structured offense with real expectations, the guy's going to be a disaster.

I don't care if he's cleaned up - he's just not a good quarterback.
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Old 03-01-2017, 04:07 PM   #145
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He. Isn't. Good.

The guy was playing behind an NFL line with NFL skill position players in college. He wasn't running an offense as much as he was running around with his hair on fire and chucking the damn thing downfield.

He's too small to be durable and doesn't have premier arm strength. His brand of playground football will work on shitty teams that are just running around killing time but if you run a structured offense with real expectations, the guy's going to be a disaster.

I don't care if he's cleaned up - he's just not a good quarterback.
You obviously didn't watch the Heisman trophy winning Johnny Football very closley. The guy is a gamer and his arm strength is fine. He has that rare trait of finding open receivers downfield. Put him on the same offense with Kelce ,Maclin and Hill and you can rest the other guys. A qB that scrambles and has GREAT downfield vision is exactly what I would build an offense around instead of bringing him in and changing his play. We have the perfect weapons to make him awesome right now.
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Old 03-01-2017, 04:08 PM   #146
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Hoping you PM'ed him telling him he's a retart!
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He. Isn't. Good.

The guy was playing behind an NFL line with NFL skill position players in college. He wasn't running an offense as much as he was running around with his hair on fire and chucking the damn thing downfield.

He's too small to be durable and doesn't have premier arm strength. His brand of playground football will work on shitty teams that are just running around killing time but if you run a structured offense with real expectations, the guy's going to be a disaster.

I don't care if he's cleaned up - he's just not a good quarterback.
For some reason Tyler Thigpen came to mind when I read this.
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Anyone in here who thinks that Johnny's parenting was the decisive element in his becoming a complete douche-bag narcissist, has a poor understanding of both parenting and human development. It's a complex confluence of nature, nurture, life experience, peer interactions, and a real bitch called free will. Genetics and parenting play a big role, especially early; however, life, friends, and personal choices hold much greater sway once kids head into high school and beyond. People who work with children and young adults understand that simple truth. People who suggest otherwise, are simply ignorant. Great parents can produce absolute dregs of society; likewise, some kids are able to thrive despite a shitty hand they are dealt. I see it every single day.

None of us know the details of Johnny's formative years, or the circumstances that have led him down this self-destructive path. I think it's safe to say his father knows him better than any windbags on a discussion board. I'll defer to his judgment that tough love may be the last best option to wake-up his kid. He may be right, or he may be wrong. In the end though, it's Johnny, not his dad, who will be the one to either figure things out--or not.



None of what you say here refutes the notion that this is much, much more on Johnny himself, than anything to do with parenting. As your own children reach adulthood, you will learn this yourself. Parents are like Presidents; they get much more blame for things, and much more credit for things....than they ever really deserve.
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I'm entirely for bringing the kid in on a very low-end deal to see if he's actually into making something of himself. I've been following him a bit through this too and he actually seems to be going the right direction.
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Johnny Manziel Banned From The CFL

Johnny Manziel’s time in the NFL came to an end in 2016 and less than three years later his CFL career has ended as well.

The former Heisman winner and 22nd overall pick in the 2014 NFL Draft was cut by the Montreal Alouettes less than one year after signing his first Canadian Football League contract.

The league cited Manziel had contravened the agreement which made him eligible to play.

In addition to the news, the CFL has announced he is in essence banned, as no other teams are allowed to sign him.

“We are disappointed by this turn of events, Alouettes General Manager Kavis Reed said in a statement posted to the CFL’s website. “Johnny was provided a great deal of support by our organization, in collaboration with the CFL, but he has been unable to abide by the terms of his agreement. We worked with the league and presented alternatives to Johnny, who was unwilling to proceed. We are confident going into the 2019 training camp with a roster of quarterbacks that had played in our system last year and are committed to our team.”
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