Chiefs When does Smith lose the team? - Page 3

**petegz28** · 11-26-2017, 03:31 PM

In his defense the play calling the last few weeks, particularly on 3rd down has been the worst I have ever seen. Also, the OLine can't block a good HS team right now for shit.

That being said, he is consistently bailing out way too early and missing way too many open receivers. The times where he needs to just let the ball fly and see what happens stopped after game 5.

So to the point, watch the int at the end of the Bills game and look at Kelce's reaction. Typical to a point but after the calling out after the Giants loss, you have to wonder when the offense is going to start tearing itself apart?

On the last 2 drives of the Bills game, he missed a wide open Wilson for 4 yards on 4th and 4 and went deep to Hill and threw incomplete. Then on the last play of the game for KC, Kelce is open and he threw into double coverage.

I think there are a lot of reasons for a civil war on the offense, from the coaching, to play calling to blocking ...but Smith has shit his pants the last several games and even those who have tried to defend him can no longer do it.

kcxiv · 11-26-2017, 03:59 PM

There is going to be a blow up happening soon. You can tell Kelce has almost had enough of that shit. Sooner or later, he's going to snap.

kcpasco · 11-26-2017, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv

There is going to be a blow up happening soon. You can tell Kelce has almost had enough of that shit. Sooner or later, he's going to snap.

I hope he does. I don’t care if it is bad for the locker room.

KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN · 11-26-2017, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

Hill and Kelce would be feasting with a decent QB

And Robinson would be the next Julio Jones!

SDChiefs · 11-26-2017, 04:20 PM

About a month ago.

**MahiMike** · 11-26-2017, 04:23 PM

All I keep hearing on the radio is how bad the OL is. Don't they get the fact it's all connected? Throw the damn ball down field and all of a sudden the running game works and the OL starts blocking just fine.

**petegz28** · 11-26-2017, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

All I keep hearing on the radio is how bad the OL is. Don't they get the fact it's all connected? Throw the damn ball down field and all of a sudden the running game works and the OL starts blocking just fine.

Look it, the OL blocking sucks...the play calling is absolutely ****ing abysmal....but when given chances, Smith has not come through. I defended him as much as anyone. All QB's miss receivers or make bad throws. He is doing it consistently.

Sandy Vagina · 11-26-2017, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Look it, the OL blocking sucks...the play calling is absolutely ****ing abysmal....but when given chances, Smith has not come through. I defended him as much as anyone. All QB's miss receivers or make bad throws. He is doing it consistently.

It's true.. and this last game is almost certainly the answer to the original question.

Look, I know the players like Alex. They even respect him.. but they likely do not think he is all that he should be. They're not wrong.

He had his chances. He got his payment. He should not have one spoken complaint when the decision to start Mahomes comes. This decision should be made public by tomorrow. The Mahomes Era must come now.. even if sooner than planned for.

The run game is abysmal. The playcalling has been shit. But all of that still doesn't excuse Smith's play. A spark is clearly needed.. and a QB change is the ONLY thing that has any chance of providing that spark.

Sorry, Alex. You're a great dude, but have done all you can do, and it ain't enough for what KC needs.

Happy trails, old friend.

**Ming the Merciless** · 11-26-2017, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Vagina

Sorry, Alex. You're a great dude, but have done all you can do, and it ain't enough for what KC needs.

you ****ign moron

go back and read the YEARS of arguments where people tried to explain this fact to you

you should be a lot more apologetic

you should go hit the ****ing road and piss up a rope because ive been packing YOUR bags

FlaChief58 · 11-26-2017, 05:07 PM

Week 6 with the Shitsburg loss

**Ming the Merciless** · 11-26-2017, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Vagina

Happy trails, old friend.

meanwhile, sandy:

Sandy Vagina · 11-26-2017, 05:20 PM

Naw man.. Mild disappointment is all I can muster for this.

You know, you don't have to blame me for what Smith has become. I felt Smith could get better.. and thought he was doing just that early in the year. Dude fell off a cliff. Oh ****ing well.

carcosa · 11-26-2017, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

I hope he does. I don’t care if it is bad for the locker room.

I'm craving a public call-out. I want Kelce to say, straight up, "we need a change at quarterback"

PLEASE Travis, run your mouth for the good of the team!!!

**TribalElder** · 11-26-2017, 05:31 PM

Smith lost the team weeks ago

Discuss Thrower · 11-26-2017, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder

Smith lost the team weeks ago

Given Conley and Geoff Schwartz's tweets, the offense probably still supports Smith fully.

The defense I wouldn't be sure about.

Stryker · 11-26-2017, 05:35 PM

If I were Veach, I would trot that piece of shit Alice Smith on the field next season and finish his contract. I would get as many "best position available" players on the offense/defense as I could through 2018 draft. Have a losing 2018 season and keep my draft picks through said season. Go into the 2019 draft and hit it hard with "best position available" and have a solid foundation around our young QB. Start him off with a solid Oline to protect him and hopefully some gem WR's to throw to as well as a revamped defense. Then watch our future unfold. This is not going to end pretty at all this year as well as next but the future seems bright

Just my .02

11-26-2017, 03:31 PM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-1055873	When does Smith lose the team? In his defense the play calling the last few weeks, particularly on 3rd down has been the worst I have ever seen. Also, the OLine can't block a good HS team right now for shit. That being said, he is consistently bailing out way too early and missing way too many open receivers. The times where he needs to just let the ball fly and see what happens stopped after game 5. So to the point, watch the int at the end of the Bills game and look at Kelce's reaction. Typical to a point but after the calling out after the Giants loss, you have to wonder when the offense is going to start tearing itself apart? On the last 2 drives of the Bills game, he missed a wide open Wilson for 4 yards on 4th and 4 and went deep to Hill and threw incomplete. Then on the last play of the game for KC, Kelce is open and he threw into double coverage. I think there are a lot of reasons for a civil war on the offense, from the coaching, to play calling to blocking ...but Smith has shit his pants the last several games and even those who have tried to defend him can no longer do it.
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11-26-2017, 03:59 PM	#31
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Sandy Vagina Still Got The Blues (For You) Join Date: May 2013 Casino cash: $10014178	Naw man.. Mild disappointment is all I can muster for this. You know, you don't have to blame me for what Smith has become. I felt Smith could get better.. and thought he was doing just that early in the year. Dude fell off a cliff. Oh ****ing well.
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11-26-2017, 05:35 PM	#45
Stryker Super Bowl LVIII Champions! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Casino cash: $-405364	If I were Veach, I would trot that piece of shit Alice Smith on the field next season and finish his contract. I would get as many "best position available" players on the offense/defense as I could through 2018 draft. Have a losing 2018 season and keep my draft picks through said season. Go into the 2019 draft and hit it hard with "best position available" and have a solid foundation around our young QB. Start him off with a solid Oline to protect him and hopefully some gem WR's to throw to as well as a revamped defense. Then watch our future unfold. This is not going to end pretty at all this year as well as next but the future seems bright Just my .02 __________________ Super Bowl LVIII Champions! Last edited by Stryker; 11-26-2017 at 05:47 PM..
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