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Old 12-17-2017, 04:30 PM  
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Could we see Mahomes against Denver ?

If we beat Miami. Do the Chiefs rest the starters ?
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Old 12-17-2017, 11:31 PM   #46
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There's a lot more to lose in playing Mahomes on the road against Denver than they stand to gain in doing the same.
Like playing Alex and risk your starting QB getting hurt who's got trade value?

Why is Mahomes thought as China glass or some shit? He's not this fragile guy people are scared to even play him GTFO
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Old 12-17-2017, 11:34 PM   #47
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Like playing Alex and risk your starting QB getting hurt who's got trade value?

Why is Mahomes thought as China glass or some shit? He's not this fragile guy people are scared to even play him GTFO
Mahomes hypothetically tears an ACL against Denver and then he misses all of OTAs and preseason and you're pretty much forced to start Smith in 2018.

Yeah. Great plan.
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Old 12-17-2017, 11:36 PM   #48
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Mahomes hypothetically tears an ACL against Denver and then he misses all of OTAs and preseason and you're pretty much forced to start Smith in 2018.

Yeah. Great plan.
Hahaha was this same logic used during preseason game 4? I'll wait
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Old 12-17-2017, 11:37 PM   #49
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If we beat the fins we should just rest everybody and forfeit the game, loss doesn't hurt, starters all the way from bray and the practice squad stay healthy, win win
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Old 12-17-2017, 11:38 PM   #50
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Mahomes hypothetically tears an ACL against Denver and then he misses all of OTAs and preseason and you're pretty much forced to start Smith in 2018.

Yeah. Great plan.
He could tear his ACL in the offseason or camp, he could tear it week one next year. You can't worry about that.
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Old 12-17-2017, 11:39 PM   #51
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He could tear his ACL in the offseason or camp, he could tear it week one next year. You can't worry about that.
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Old 12-17-2017, 11:41 PM   #52
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Old 12-17-2017, 11:43 PM   #53
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IF it plays out I think the best case scenario would be to let Smith start the first half to get him some reps against a quality defense. Let Mahomes play the second half to get him some playing time. Hopefully he plays well and it can build some confidence. I think Andy will use him in the playoffs. I have a feeling we’ve been working on some tricky 2 QB formations with how athletic Mahomes is.
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Old 12-17-2017, 11:50 PM   #54
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Bunch of pussies in here... you rest Alex and start Mahomes in the first half and Bray in the second half, so you don't have a qb controversy going into the playoffs.
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Such a stupid conversation.

Again. What do the Chiefs have to gain in starting Mahomes over Smith in a potentially meaningless game?

Nothing.

Mahomes looks great against Denver with backups then you look stupid for not benching Smith weeks earlier and you create a QB controversy going into the playoffs.

Mahomes struggles against Denver then you look stupid for giving up multiple draft picks and you're forced to seriously consider keeping Smith for another year because Mahomes looks awful.

Mahomes starts and sustains a serious injury which causes him miss significant time the next season, then you've sacrificed two out of his four cheap contract years to holding a clipboard or being on IR and waste a year of development.

You either start the whole offense with Smith and all healthy starters playing but with an ultra conservative game plan (like what Reid trotted out against the Colts at Arrowhead in 2013) or you start Bray with some slapdicks.
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Could Mahomes be our rob johnson for flutie come playoff time ?
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Such a stupid conversation.

Again. What do the Chiefs have to gain in starting Mahomes over Smith in a potentially meaningless game?

Nothing.

Mahomes looks great against Denver with backups then you look stupid for not benching Smith weeks earlier and you create a QB controversy going into the playoffs.

Mahomes struggles against Denver then you look stupid for giving up multiple draft picks and you're forced to seriously consider keeping Smith for another year because Mahomes looks awful.

Mahomes starts and sustains a serious injury which causes him miss significant time the next season, then you've sacrificed two out of his four cheap contract years to holding a clipboard or being on IR and waste a year of development.

You either start the whole offense with Smith and all healthy starters playing but with an ultra conservative game plan (like what Reid trotted out against the Colts at Arrowhead in 2013) or you start Bray with some slapdicks.

Oh no we wasted our whole draft if he has a bad game in Denver!

You never answered why they started him preseason game 4.

The answer is the same reason they do week 17. Game Experience.
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Oh no we wasted our whole draft if he has a bad game in Denver!

You never answered why they started him preseason game 4.

The answer is the same reason they do week 17. Game Experience.
The last game of preseason against 3rd and 4th string Tennessee defensive players is not the ****ing same as Week 17 against Denver's mostly intact 1st string.
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The last game of preseason against 3rd and 4th string Tennessee defensive players is not the ****ing same as Week 17 against Denver's mostly intact 1st string.
But but but....he could have gotten hurt!
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Again. What do the Chiefs have to gain in starting Mahomes over Smith in a potentially meaningless game?

Nothing.
Experience isn't "nothing". You can discuss how much experience it really it but it certainly is some.

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Mahomes looks great against Denver with backups then you look stupid for not benching Smith weeks earlier and you create a QB controversy going into the playoffs.
Andy shouldn't be making a decision on who to start week 17 because he is afraid to look dumb.

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Mahomes struggles against Denver then you look stupid for giving up multiple draft picks and you're forced to seriously consider keeping Smith for another year because Mahomes looks awful.
Using 1 game to determine if we look stupid about the draft selection is crazy. Anybody that uses 1 game to determine if a draft pick is the right choice is a fool. You are really stretching with this point.

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Mahomes starts and sustains a serious injury which causes him miss significant time the next season, then you've sacrificed two out of his four cheap contract years to holding a clipboard or being on IR and waste a year of development.
This is the only valid reason you mentioned to not start Mahomes and it's a legitimate concern. But even in this scenario the only real concern is about Smith. If we are worried about starting Mahomes in a meaningless game and losing him to injury then you can't start him in preseason games either. Preseason games are experience builders that risk injury in meaningless games which is what week 17 is.

The true concern here is how an injury would affect the Chiefs offseason. That's the only point here that gives me pause about starting Mahomes.
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