Avengers (4) Endgame - Spoilers Welcome Thread

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

No. Because that was part of the plot of the movie.

And it wasn't all guys. It was EVERYBODY. It wasn't all guys in every other frickin' shot.

They had *gasp* male AND female characters in multiple shots multiple times!

The thought of such a thing!

Cramming "see! women can be superheroes TOO!" down our throats to satisfy political agendas is reeruned because that point was made decades ago.

**** that shit. This is 2019. Women can like sci-fi. Men can like flowery period dramas. Hell, the same people can like them both. Organ placement shouldn't determine anyone's taste in fiction.

This is going to become one of the highest grossing movies of all time specifically because they figured out how to get women to see and like comic movies despite centuries of social programming. It's not the phenomenon it is without that.

What you guys who react so poorly to this need to figure out is why you feel so threatened. It's not like they have or will ever stop catering to you as a fan, too. They want your money just as much as they want everybody else's. And if they do continue to develop female characters and even - gasp - focus on some of them or even groups of them, they're gonna try and find ways to get our male asses into seats, too.

And part of the reason there's so much focus on women is because there's been so little in the past. Eventually there will be enough female producers and directors and writers and characters that giving women that kind of responsibility, like we've seen with Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel, won't be new or novel or groundbreaking, and eventually we'll just have writers and directors and actors, without gender tags, and the focus can be on making good movies with the best people. Like it should be.

Rant over.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

**** that shit. This is 2019. Women can like sci-fi. Men can like flowery period dramas. Hell, the same people can like them both. Organ placement shouldn't determine anyone's taste in fiction.

I agree wholeheartedly.

That doesn't mean they need a LOOK AT ME! moment that has nothing to do with the plot.

Hamfisted garbage.

And none of this was groundbreaking.

Alien was over 30 years ago.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

I agree wholeheartedly.

That doesn't mean they need a LOOK AT ME! moment that has nothing to do with the plot.

Hamfisted garbage.

And none of this was groundbreaking.

Alien was over 30 years ago.

You're acting like the movie wasn't filled with stuff that was basically meant to pander to certain segments of fans.
- Cap lifting Mjolnir
- "Avengers Assemble"
- Jarvis
- Time travel stuff just happens to be to two of the more iconic scenes in the MCU (the circle in the battle in NYC and Starlord dancing to himself at the beginning of GOTG)
- Thor playing Fortnite

I'm sure I could go on if I thought about it. The point is that these movies aren't 100% serious. They're meant to have a good story, lots of action, and a few things thrown in that are just for fun and because fans like them. You don't like Girl Power, and that's OK, but acting it was this huge outlier is just kind of silly.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by DaFace

You're acting like the movie wasn't filled with stuff that was basically meant to pander to certain segments of fans.
- Cap lifting Mjolnir
- "Avengers Assemble"
- Jarvis
- Time travel stuff just happens to be to two of the more iconic scenes in the MCU (the circle in the battle in NYC and Starlord dancing to himself at the beginning of GOTG)

That isn't pandering. That's cool stuff that's in-universe.

This is forcing in something out of universe that weakens the movie.

You actually make female characters WEAKER when you do this.

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

That isn't pandering. That's cool stuff that's in-universe.

This is forcing in something out of universe that weakens the movie.

You actually make female characters WEAKER when you do this.

Seemed like a setup for an A-Force movie. Just like they setup Guardians + Thor.

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

**** that shit. This is 2019. Women can like sci-fi. Men can like flowery period dramas. Hell, the same people can like them both. Organ placement shouldn't determine anyone's taste in fiction.

This is going to become one of the highest grossing movies of all time specifically because they figured out how to get women to see and like comic movies despite centuries of social programming. It's not the phenomenon it is without that.

What you guys who react so poorly to this need to figure out is why you feel so threatened. It's not like they have or will ever stop catering to you as a fan, too. They want your money just as much as they want everybody else's. And if they do continue to develop female characters and even - gasp - focus on some of them or even groups of them, they're gonna try and find ways to get our male asses into seats, too.

And part of the reason there's so much focus on women is because there's been so little in the past. Eventually there will be enough female producers and directors and writers and characters that giving women that kind of responsibility, like we've seen with Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel, won't be new or novel or groundbreaking, and eventually we'll just have writers and directors and actors, without gender tags, and the focus can be on making good movies with the best people. Like it should be.

Rant over.

I like their little group shot because they had a comic for them of all female avengers. It was a nod to the comic fans. Just like caps hail Hydra.

I hated the idea if the new Ghostbusters, thus is no where near that. I agree if someone freaks about this they have some deeper incel problems they need to look at.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Valiant

I like their little group shot because they had a comic for them of all female avengers. It was a nod to the comic fans. Just like caps hail Hydra.

I hated the idea if the new Ghostbusters, thus is no where near that. I agree if someone freaks about this they have some deeper incel problems they need to look at.

That female group shot happened during the best part of the movie, anyway. If it was in the middle of the convoluted Quantom Realm part I might've noticed it a bit more but I was just too busy having fun.