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Old 02-23-2022, 10:23 PM  
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Trade for Danielle Hunter?

Price maybe a 2nd and 4th? Sounds too cheap?

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Two players for the Minnesota Vikings have chunky cap hits for the 2022 budget – Kirk Cousins and Danielle Hunter.

Cousins is a polarizing athlete, so the get-rid-of-him fodder is all over the internet. These are some teams Cousins might join if the Vikings actually trade their QB1. His $45 million cap hit is the obvious place to start for a team seeking to fix its underwater cap situation.


Trading Cousins would save $35 million in cap dollars for the 2022 season. New general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah may or may not trade Cousins. We shall see. When Minnesota rolled out its new head coach one week ago, it sure didn’t sound like Kevin O’Connell endorsed a Cousins trade.


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Dec 23, 2019; Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA; Minnesota Vikings defensive end Danielle Hunter. Mandatory Credit: Brace Hemmelgarn-USA TODAY Sports
Hunter is the other question mark. His cap hit in 2022 is $26 million, a steep figure for a player who missed 79% of all football games during the last two seasons. A healthy Hunter is a beastly productive player, setting the tone for a usually-good Vikings defense. Without Hunter, Minnesota’s defense stinks, guaranteed to collapse in the final two minutes of the 2nd Quarter and 4th Quarter. It’s like clockwork.


So, like Cousins, trading the expensive player elsewhere – Hunter, in this case – is on the docket for discussion. Should the Vikings invest megabucks in an EDGE rusher who plays 21% of the time? Probably not. However, Hunter’s injury history only began in 2020. Before that, he was durable.

Fans tend to believe Hunter would fetch a 1st-Round draft pick inside of a trade. The healthy version of the LSU alumnus probably would. Yet, per Pro Football Focus, the “1st-Round stuff” may be overstating value.

In an article by Brad Spielberger from Pro Football Focus detailing potential offseason trades, Hunter was sent to the Buffalo Bills – just like Stefon Diggs – for a substantially lower sum than 1st-Round draft capital.


Per Spielberger, Buffalo would send a 2nd-Rounder and 4th-Rounder to Minnesota for the 27-year-old Hunter. That trade package certainly isn’t insulting, but it is not the “1st-Rounder and change” some Vikings fans believe Hunter is worth. Spielberger wrote about the hypothetical trade:

“Hunter will still be just 27 years old in Week 1 of 2022 and is a force multiplier for any defense. The Bills used their first and second-round picks in 2021 on edge defenders Gregory Rousseau and Carlos Basham, but all three players can also kick inside and line up opposite guards. Hunter could be the final piece that puts the Bills’ roster over the edge. Last but not least, a reunion with former Vikings wide receiver Stefon Diggs could help ease the transition for Hunter to a new franchise. However, it could be too hard for Adofo-Mensah to “sell low” on an elite pass-rusher.”
Brad Spielberger | Pro Football Focus
It is unclear who is more likely to be traded, Cousins or Hunter. Cousins is durable. Hunter has been the antithesis of durable as of late. To a QB-needy team, Cousins likely commands a 1st-Rounder simply because his position is considered “more important” than the defensive line.

But if Hunter is the one traded, it is not a no-brainer for his trade value to send a 1st-Round pick in exchange to the Vikings. The conversation needs adjustment. To date, trading Hunter is perceived through a lens of snagging a 1st-Round draft choice – sometimes in the Top 10 spots.

Hunter is a fantastic football player who will spend 2022 trying to prove his injury maladies were outliers. If he departs the Vikings, a 1st-Rounder is not the bottom shelf for his trade value. Adjust your expectations.
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Old 02-24-2022, 05:31 PM   #61
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Wait, there is a dude named Danielle? I thought this was going to be a cheerleader thread.
It's 2022.

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Old 02-24-2022, 05:38 PM   #62
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You aren't getting an elite and established pass rusher in his prime for a 2nd and 4th lmao.
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Old 02-24-2022, 05:54 PM   #64
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You aren't getting an elite and established pass rusher in his prime for a 2nd and 4th lmao.
We can if we can get Clay to write a story about how he beats his girlfriend...per sources.
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He was a top 3 pass rusher in the NFL prior to his injuries lambasting him 2 years ago.

Sorry you haven't heard of him.
I'm not. Two years is a long time to miss football due to injuries. I'm basically meh about it.
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Old 02-24-2022, 08:58 PM   #69
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Cliff notes;

- He’s a freak athletically. 9.89 raw athletic score at 6’5” 260lbs (weight now), 4.57 40, 1.57 10 yard split, 36.5” vertical and broad jump 10’10”.

https://ras.football/2019/12/27/dani...unter-ras/?amp

- Youngest player EVER to 50 sacks, currently has 60.5 sacks. 27 years old.

- Hunter has been injured the past two years. The first major injury was a neck injury and came back played well, back to normal. The last injury was pectoral injury and there is no reason to believe that he won’t fully recover. The injuries are not repetitive injuries like a hamstring that are often torn over and over. He should be fine.

- Hunter could be available for trade bc of the injuries and how the vikes dline performed without him by showing potential to able to perform without while out. Vikes also have a new head coach and are switching to a 3-4 and he’s a traditional 4-3 DE. Vikes are in cap trouble and need to free up cap space and Hunter takes up a chunk of cap space.



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Interesting, I'm wondering if there's a team out there thinking something similar about Frank Clark: "He's ONLY 28, and just a few years ago in SEA he was really getting after the QB! Maybe he just needs a change of scenery?"

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for a 5th round pick and a cheap enough contract, I guess. But he's been kinda injured a lot over the past 2 or 3 years.
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Interesting, I'm wondering if there's a team out there thinking something similar about Frank Clark: "He's ONLY 28, and just a few years ago in SEA he was really getting after the QB! Maybe he just needs a change of scenery?"

Comparing Frank Clark to Danielle Hunter is like comparing Cousins to Mahomes.
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A healthy Hunter compares better to Khalil Mack not frank clark. We could get a discount on Hunter bc of injury.

Who won the trade for Khalil Mack? Raiders or Bears?

Raiders ended up getting 2 1sts, a 6th and a 3rd. Josh Jacobs - , Damon Arnette (chiefs cut recently), Blessuan Austin and Bryan Edwards.

Bears got Mack, Coke Kmet (2nd) and Arlington Hambright (7th)

The Raiders sent Mack, a 2020 second-rounder [which became tight end Cole Kmet] and a 2020 seventh-rounder [Arlington Hambright] to the Bears. They got back the No. 24 pick in 2019, which they used on running back Josh Jacobs, a Pro Bowl pick last year; the No. 19 overall pick in 2020, cornerback Damon Arnette, who has started only seven times in two years and will miss Sunday’s game with groin injury; a 2019 sixth-round pick, cornerback Blessuan Austin, whom they sent to the Jets in a draft-day trade; and 2020 third-round pick Bryan Edwards, who has 11 catches for 204 yards this year.

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