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Old 01-04-2023, 07:44 PM  
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Nice to see Jared and Albert nominated.

Think J. Thomas, Revis, Freeney, Barber and Holt get in. Maybe Woodson.

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Old 01-04-2023, 08:03 PM   #16
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Old 01-04-2023, 08:05 PM   #17
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Wasn't Zach Thomas like a 7 time (All Pro or second team all pro)? How is he not in at this point...when you are the first or second best player in the league at your position for 7 years?
Is Zach Thomas going in as a Chief?
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Old 01-04-2023, 08:08 PM   #18
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Is Zach Thomas going in as a Chief?
He should because he sucked when he played for the Dolphins
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Old 01-04-2023, 08:17 PM   #19
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47 picks, 28 sacks and 12 TD

5 Pro Bowls, 1 DPOY

he's in
Wow, that's almost as many interceptions and pro bowls as Deron Cherry.
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Old 01-04-2023, 08:21 PM   #20
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47 picks, 28 sacks and 12 TD

5 Pro Bowls, 1 DPOY

he's in
Keep in mind the difference between a pro bowl and all pro. All pro is the best at your position, pro bowls is the best 4-5 at your position. Zach Thomas was the best at his position for 5 years and runner up another 2 times (he has 1 more all pro award than Mills). Only Cleveland's Thomas of the finalists has more all pro awards. Zach has to get in this time.
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Old 01-04-2023, 08:43 PM   #21
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He should because he sucked when he played for the Dolphins
Really...

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Better stats than Urlacher




BTW, comparing him to our beloved Derek Thomas...

Zach had 1,100 Solo Tackles and Derek had 532 Solo Tackles
Zach had 627 Assists and Derek had 110 Assists
Zach All Pro 5 Times and Derek All Pro 3 Times...

And who deserves in again?
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Deron Cherry is a six-time pro bowler and three time all-pro, and he can't even get into the semi-finalist round. It's an even bigger mystery to me than Otis Taylor not being in.
This is just my opinion, but I think part of it has to do with how visible was the player at the time. If you played for a franchise that was always going to the playoffs, always on primetime, then you just had more eyeballs on you and the voters would remember these guys like Cherry or Otis. Especially before cable, ESPN, etc. But if you played for a franchise that almost never got primetime games, especially when it was just MNF, never got into the playoffs, then you get overlooked, simply because a lot fewer people were watching you play.
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BTW, comparing him to our beloved Derek Thomas...

not the same position at all, you cant even make that comparison
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Old 01-04-2023, 09:20 PM   #24
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This is just my opinion, but I think part of it has to do with how visible was the player at the time. If you played for a franchise that was always going to the playoffs, always on primetime, then you just had more eyeballs on you and the voters would remember these guys like Cherry or Otis. Especially before cable, ESPN, etc. But if you played for a franchise that almost never got primetime games, especially when it was just MNF, never got into the playoffs, then you get overlooked, simply because a lot fewer people were watching you play.
Yeah, the Chiefs weren't the league's premier franchise at that point. Deron played in the era where Ronnie Lott got all of the attention as well. He didn't get the credit that he deserved.
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Torry should have been in years ago. He's the last of the GSOT that hasn't gotten in. Wayne gets in next year.
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Really...

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Better stats than Urlacher




BTW, comparing him to our beloved Derek Thomas...

Zach had 1,100 Solo Tackles and Derek had 532 Solo Tackles
Zach had 627 Assists and Derek had 110 Assists
Zach All Pro 5 Times and Derek All Pro 3 Times...

And who deserves in again?
Yeah all his good years were in Kansas City bub
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Yeah all his good years were in Kansas City bub
Same with Revis. Dude sucked as a Jet. Really came into his own as a Chief.
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Same with Revis. Dude sucked as a Jet. Really came into his own as a Chief.
I forgot he even played for the Jets lmao
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BTW, comparing him to our beloved Derek Thomas...

Zach had 1,100 Solo Tackles and Derek had 532 Solo Tackles
Zach had 627 Assists and Derek had 110 Assists
Zach All Pro 5 Times and Derek All Pro 3 Times...

And who deserves in again?
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What's being lost here is Thomas really wasn't a classic LB. He was a pass rusher. He had 126 sacks in 11 years. That's 11 sacks per year average. How many LB's have that average?

His life was cut short so he probably would have had like 150 for sure. How many LB's averaged 11 sacks for career? Not even Lawrence Taylor but it's close and he played 13.

No DC was game planning for sorry ass Zach Taylor but there sure as hell were for Thomas.
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