Darkest moment in gaming you've played.

[Wallcrawler]

For me it's hands down a player initiated train robbery in Red Dead Redemption 2.

The gameplay mechanic in RDR2 that has loot on every dead body is partially to blame here, along with the inexplicable behavior of the NPC passengers in an otherwise exceptionally immersive game.

So RDR2 if you're not cheating can be grindy as hell to make money. One of the fastest ways is to rob the Annesburgh train as it passes into the tunnel heading west. With the train stopped in the tunnel, RDR2'S magically appearing lawmen do not function as they do out in the open, and you can rob the passengers at your leisure once you've killed the few armed guards on the train.

It's very dimly lit if the train has lighting, and pitch black if it doesn't, so the only light source is your lantern or your miners hat, which I prefer.

You then can systematically move passenger to passenger, robbing them of their money, as they sit terrified and begging for their lives.

You can get good money from this, but the aforementioned looting mechanic makes it more profitable to murder the npc after you rob them, as you will loot valuable items to be used in trinket crafting, selling for money, or used as health items.

This mechanic makes every NPC on this train that you're robbing, a liar. You ask for all the money, they say this is it, you kill them and loot as much if not more than they gave you.

So now, this train robbery has evolved into a robbery and mass murder, because you're trying to get the money you need as fast as possible.

The second element that makes this so dark is that the rest of the passengers do not run when the first passenger is robbed and murdered. They react horrified, crying out, begging for their lives, but they don't run.

They just sit and wait for what happened to the first to happen to them.

I remember it being enough that when I saw my girls were watching this, I turned the game off immediately.

I'm not a games make kids into killers type person, as I let my kids play gta 3 with the gore code on, exploding cartoony pixelated heads and giggling all day.

This though, this was actually disturbing. Moving through the dark, robbing them, hearing them beg for mercy and just blowing half their faces off with a sawed off shotgun, and slowly moving through the train looting headless corpses in the dimly lit train, and these character models are pretty detailed.

I was actually not willing to let my kids watch that gameplay.

I've played a lot of crazy things, like Manhunt, Punisher, tge "No Russian" airport slaughter in Call of Duty, none of it ever really move the needle for me to be like oh hell no, my kids shouldn't look at this.

Just something about them begging for mercy and my kids seeing the response to that being pull the trigger, and the passengers never ****ing run.


Like, that sequence could be extremely lessened in dark factor if after you murdered the person you robbed, no items were on the body, and if you did murder someone, the rest of the passengers should instantly run and try to escape the train.

Great game, but you can do some really disturbing things with it.

I'll note for anyone that's never played, the game never makes it an objective to do this. This us just something you can do to get money on your own. In fact, I think if you kill a passenger in the missions to rob trains, the mission will fail.

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

These come to mind immediately, but surprised no one has mentioned John Marston getting shot at the end of RDR1. I think these 3 stand out above the rest.

I didn't find that dark. It was expected, and much to the chagrin of all the drama club reject reactors out there, crying over these scenes for views on twitch and youtube, deserved.

John Marston and Arthur Morgan were first ballot hall of fame pieces of shit people. They kidnapped, murdered people. They were thieves and outlaws.

Now because he's decided he's bored of ventilating people for their hard earned money and wants to be a farmer, I'm supposed to be sad when Ross shows up with the army and on behalf of everyone John has killed or wronged, delivers a **** you via firing squad? Nah. Dude had every bit of that shit coming.

The only thing I didn't like about John Marston dying was having to play as his son with the terrible voice actor, so I just play on a save where I don't do the boring Beechers hope faming missions. Unlimited bounties in rdr1 is sorely missed in 2.

Same deal with Arthur. This career scumbag is trying to save a few other career scumbags in his gang from answering for what they've done, so now all of a sudden it's sad when he dies? I've seen all the endings, and the high honor one where he essentially drowns in his own bodily fluids as the sun rises was him getting off easy.

I much prefer the low honor ends where he's either shot in the head or stabbed to death by Micah.

Like, just because you went out and picked flowers and helped some stranded ladies get home after their horses died while you were controlling them for a bit, it doesn't change the fact that these guys are thieves and murderers that had every ounce of horrific violence that ended them coming.

Especially the John Marston and Arthur Morgan I was playing as. Jesus that train robbery shotgun decapitation spree, I mean if someone had really done that, there's really nothing you could do to that person and feel bad about it.

[Sassy Squatch]

Just another example of Gameplay and Story Segregation. Because yeah, the player probably has a kill count of well over a thousand by the time you get to the end but it's supposed to be an appalling event when Dutch kills a random or drowns Bronte and feeds him to the gators.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

I didn't find that dark. It was expected, and much to the chagrin of all the drama club reject reactors out there, crying over these scenes for views on twitch and youtube, deserved.

John Marston and Arthur Morgan were first ballot hall of fame pieces of shit people. They kidnapped, murdered people. They were thieves and outlaws.
+1
Now because he's decided he's bored of ventilating people for their hard earned money and wants to be a farmer, I'm supposed to be sad when Ross shows up with the army and on behalf of everyone John has killed or wronged, delivers a **** you via firing squad? Nah. Dude had every bit of that shit coming.

The only thing I didn't like about John Marston dying was having to play as his son with the terrible voice actor, so I just play on a save where I don't do the boring Beechers hope faming missions. Unlimited bounties in rdr1 is sorely missed in 2.

Same deal with Arthur. This career scumbag is trying to save a few other career scumbags in his gang from answering for what they've done, so now all of a sudden it's sad when he dies? I've seen all the endings, and the high honor one where he essentially drowns in his own bodily fluids as the sun rises was him getting off easy.

I much prefer the low honor ends where he's either shot in the head or stabbed to death by Micah.

Like, just because you went out and picked flowers and helped some stranded ladies get home after their horses died while you were controlling them for a bit, it doesn't change the fact that these guys are thieves and murderers that had every ounce of horrific violence that ended them coming.

Especially the John Marston and Arthur Morgan I was playing as. Jesus that train robbery shotgun decapitation spree, I mean if someone had really done that, there's really nothing you could do to that person and feel bad about it.

What's up with you taking this game and character so literally, when you're the one who's making the in-game decisions? This is kinda weird, bud. Arthur didn't stall the train in the dark tunnel, and shoot all those poor folks in the face.

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by Fish

What's up with you taking this game and character so literally, when you're the one who's making the in-game decisions? This is kinda weird, bud. Arthur didn't stall the train in the dark tunnel, and shoot all those poor folks in the face.

Maybe not, but he sure as hell killed half the town of Strawberry busting Micah out of jail, it's quite literally unavoidable as Micah dies pretty quickly if you're slacking off on the slaughter.


Sure, there's some extra salty antics outside of the story I got up to, but story mode Arthur is every bit a first ballot hall of fame murdering piece of shit. No getting around it. The amount of lawmen killed in the trolley station setup, and subsequent revenge kidnap of Bronte is enormous as well.

I just don't get the sadness when either of these guys get what's coming to em.

Aside from John as I said, because the voice actor for Jack is atrocious. John ceasing to be playable ruins the rest of the game.

[Stryker]

Joel's death in The Last of Us 2

[Stryker]

The end of The Callisto Protocol

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by Stryker

The end of The Callisto Protocol

Is the gameplay as oppressively poor as what was bitched about? I loved Dead Space and it was just so unbelievable that the guy who was behind that would create such a piece of shit as described by so many dumping on it.

[DJJasonp]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Is the gameplay as oppressively poor as what was bitched about? I loved Dead Space and it was just so unbelievable that the guy who was behind that would create such a piece of shit as described by so many dumping on it.

I enjoyed it. And I played that right after the dead space remake.

Enjoyed both, and honestly, I thought the controls/movement was better in Callisto.

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by DJJasonp

I enjoyed it. And I played that right after the dead space remake.

Enjoyed both, and honestly, I thought the controls/movement was better in Callisto.

Back on the hype list then. I was pretty excited for it before I saw the review bombing.

Glen Schofield comes up with some dark twisted scary shit. Luke I said I ****ing loved Dead Space. I wanted to try it but just never had the spare money to waste if it sucked.

[DJJasonp]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Back on the hype list then. I was pretty excited for it before I saw the review bombing.

Glen Schofield comes up with some dark twisted scary shit. Luke I said I ****ing loved Dead Space. I wanted to try it but just never had the spare money to waste if it sucked.

Only complaint I had - and minor - it was relatively short, compared to Dead Space remake.

Though I believe they have 1-2 DLCs that I havent touched yet.

[Chitownchiefsfan]

Bioshock.

Golf club.

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by Chitownchiefsfan

Bioshock.

Golf club.

Totally forgot about "Would you kindly?'

That was pretty messed up lol.

[Discuss Thrower]

Heart sank watching the third and final part of Alice Wake's video art project in Alan Wake 2

[kjwood75nro]

The Witcher 3, tricking the Hym by pretending to throw a baby into an oven.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by kjwood75nro

The Witcher 3, tricking the Hym by pretending to throw a baby into an oven.

That's a good one.

Never figured out how Cerys pulled it off, though.