James Gunn's Superman - 7/11/2025

[GabyKeepsMeWarm]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

The creativity and originality is astounding. If expecting the on screen product to reflect the source material it is made from, and targeting that audience is what makes someone a nerd, then sure.

Your ignorance of the source material saves you from this annoyance, and somehow makes you better than those with knowledge of what they're watching. Ok.


Best way I could put this is like this.

Director makes a film that includes Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes is unlike anything the director has ever seen, and prefers a more "grounded" approach, so artistic liberties are taken because he doesn't want a superhero in his football movie.

So Patrick Mahomes wears the wrong number, plays for the Raiders, and has yet to win a championship because his skillset is that of Matt Cassel in the movie.

As a Chiefs fan, you're outraged. This is NOT Patrick Mahomes! WTF! How the **** did you come up with this pile of shit!?

Clueless asshole in back row: SHUT UP NERD, THIS MOVIE IS AMAZING!

I'll give you this, you're trying to make your point. You're just not doing it very well.

And instead of your fantasies, I'll give you a real life example, based on source materal as well as reality: Moneyball

Great book that got turned into the Brad Pitt film based on the book and the Oakland A's 2002 season. Nary a mention about how good the A's were heading into the season with their incredible pitching staff, Miguel Tejada, Eric Chavez and others... Nope, just all about losing Damon and Giambi and how the team was broke and there's no way they could ever compete again. All hogwash. Does it make it a bad film? Nope. It's a great film, even if it does shift reality and twists the book's meaning around.

If you think "Rises" is a bad film because it doesn't do Bane justice to the comic, you're an imbecile.

And these are all fictional characters, by the way... I think it's actually more egregious in the Moneyball instance of shifting reality to make it a more "Hollywood" underdog story.

Are you so firmly in the "IT'S REAL TO ME DAMMIT!" pathology that you can't even see the forest through the trees anymore? They're fictional characters in fictional worlds. Anybody can do whatever the hell they want with them. If you don't like it their changes THAT is not what makes it "bad". You just don't like it. Seriously bro, grow some pubes and maybe go take a walk outside. I think it might do you some good.

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm

I'll give you this, you're trying to make your point. You're just not doing it very well.

No, the Mahomes example perfectly illustrates my point to any fan of Patrick Mahomes. If you saw him in a film wearing the wrong number, playing for the wrong team, and sucking, you would take issue.

The casual fan enjoying the film doesn't want to hear from you, how many things are wrong. You're a nerd. It's a movie. Relax. You're expected to just nod your head and say great movie, even though it's completely wrong.

And instead of your fantasies, I'll give you a real life example, based on source materal as well as reality: Moneyball

Great book that got turned into the Brad Pitt film based on the book and the Oakland A's 2002 season. Nary a mention about how good the A's were heading into the season with their incredible pitching staff, Miguel Tejada, Eric Chavez and others... Nope, just all about losing Damon and Giambi and how the team was broke and there's no way they could ever compete again. All hogwash. Does it make it a bad film? Nope. It's a great film, even if it does shift reality and twists the book's meaning around.

Maybe ask the long-standing fans of the A's what they think. Probably negative. I enjoyed Moneyball for the sane reason BWillie enjoyed Nolans portrayal of Bane. Ignorance of the source material. I don't follow the A's.

Knowing afterward, how much shit is wrong, it does sour the opinion of the film for me at least.


If you think "Rises" is a bad film because it doesn't do Bane justice to the comic, you're an imbecile.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion.

The fact is that the story Nolan wanted to tell, nobody would have given a shit about it if they didn't shoehorn Bane into it. What, our foil is going to be an excommunicated member of the league of Shadows, and they want to make another attempt on Gotham. Sounds kinda boring Chris, we kinda did that in Batman Begins.

We will make this interesting, by telling our story using Bane's name. Fans of Bane and The Breaking of The Bat story will flock to cinemas to see this.

Bane isn't, and was never in the League of Shadows. Fans of Bane know this.

Fans of Batman (The target audience for this film, btw) know this.

Then we don't have a proper Bane, his backstory is wrong, in essence, he is "Bane" in name only.

And these are all fictional characters, by the way... I think it's actually more egregious in the Moneyball instance of shifting reality to make it a more "Hollywood" underdog story.

Are you so firmly in the "IT'S REAL TO ME DAMMIT!" pathology that you can't even see the forest through the trees anymore? They're fictional characters in fictional worlds. Anybody can do whatever the hell they want with them.

They certainly can, but it doesn't mean it works. Look at The Witcher Netflix series. They did whatever the hell they wanted. Worked out great. Cavill quit the show it was so poor.

If you don't like it their changes THAT is not what makes it "bad". You just don't like it.

Imagine the concept of disliking being sold a false bill of goods. Crazy, right?

If you're advertising to me, Bane, then I expect to see Bane. You know. The character you looked at at wanted to put in your movie.

I don't want you to change his history, his look, I do t want you taking liberties and forcing the square peg into the round hole, because you weren't talented enough to write your own story and character that was of interest, and now you want to tell your story using established characters as the bait, and expect me to be fine with it when you utterly fail to deliver what you damn well know was expected.

Seriously bro, grow some pubes and maybe go take a walk outside. I think it might do you some good.

Grow some pubes. Well, that's certainly something you can post I guess. Makes about as much sense se as the rest of your drivel justifying any and all changes made to source material.

[GabyKeepsMeWarm]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Grow some pubes. Well, that's certainly something you can post I guess. Makes about as much sense se as the rest of your drivel justifying any and all changes made to source material.

Awwww, I get it now. You're stupid.