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Old 01-06-2025, 03:43 PM  
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My Unpopular Take on Wentz

…. Is that he was ****ed from the start yesterday. No one’s fault really. But hear me out.

At OL, he got three whole snaps from Creed, Thuney, and Trey respectively. Zero from Jawaan obviously.

At RB, he got zero from Hunt or Pacheco.

At WR, he got zero from Hopkins or Hollywood and one from Worthy.

That part is whatever, it was the right call by Reid and the staff. Where Wentz really got shafted is having to go against a good defense that had everything to play for in their house.

There was not a worse opponent to go up against yesterday based purely on circumstances. It’s not like Trubisky who got to face a Patriots team that woulda been happy to lose and pick #1. It’s not like had he played even the Raiders or Chargers yesterday; both teams who had already sealed their respective fates beyond Week 18.

He had to lead that offense against the most motivated defense of all 32 yesterday.

I just think the discussion should be contextualized a little. I’d be thrilled to have him back next year and unfortunately for him now, he may not have much of a choice. But all the finger pointing at him is pretty dumb, IMO. Especially when you factor in he drilled that elbow on a helmet during the first quarter.

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Old 01-06-2025, 07:25 PM   #31
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Shoulda played Chris Okley-Dokley at the half.
Yep, and go full sandlot and let him make up the plays in the huddle.
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Old 01-06-2025, 07:25 PM   #32
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Shoulda played Chris Okley-Dokley at the half.
Oakey dokey did play some didnt he?
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Old 01-06-2025, 07:29 PM   #33
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Shoulda played Chris Okley-Dokley at the half.
I really thought they would play Carson with the full set of starters for the first half and then pull everyone including Wentz in the second half.

I’m glad they didn’t take the risk however.
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Old 01-06-2025, 08:35 PM   #34
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I’m certainly not blaming or holding it against him, but he didn’t impress either.

The 3rd stringer looked intriguing, kid can really move!
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Old 01-06-2025, 08:41 PM   #35
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I’m surprised at the margin and just how poorly the team played overall but nothing definitive should be taken from that game.

Wentz’s days starting should be over bc of his time in Indy. If Andy Reid can put together a gameplan with a PE teacher he can do it with this dude and many others as needed.

As for Wentz coming back next yr tell me what my options are and I’ll give answer - he’s certainly good enough to be a #2.
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Old 01-06-2025, 08:51 PM   #36
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Henne saved the day leading a full complement of starters, its not even remotely comparable situations come on man
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Old 01-06-2025, 09:00 PM   #37
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He certainly wasn’t set up to succeed, but he really noodle-armed a couple of out patterns in the first half where our WR had a step and they could’ve been nice gains. Both barely got to the receiver’s feet.
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Old 01-06-2025, 11:17 PM   #38
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Well we've seen even mahomes look inaccurate when the line is getting whipped. The first half wasn't too bad for the line but the second half they just pinned their ears back and rushed the qb.

I mean we opened with run, run, pass. Did andy even bother to script the first plays? Lol.
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Old 01-07-2025, 03:11 AM   #39
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He certainly wasn’t set up to succeed, but he really noodle-armed a couple of out patterns in the first half where our WR had a step and they could’ve been nice gains. Both barely got to the receiver’s feet.
Yea, always lots of excuses for Wentz wherever he plays. All of what the op is saying is true, but he should have shown better.
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Old 01-07-2025, 06:53 AM   #40
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Totally agree with OP's take - while 15 would have done much better, he still would not have won given the missing playmakers.
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Uh, yeah if he would stay around for a couple years I'd sign him today.

Wentz is a good player and with Andy and Co. I don't think it's a question that he'd be successful here in a spot start or even a long stretch if Pat got hurt.
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Old 01-07-2025, 08:16 AM   #42
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I agree that Wentz didn't really have much of a chance given the circumstances, I also believe that if he were starter material, he would not be a backup.
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Yea, I don't understand people saying Wentz sucks after that situation yesterday. Not only was the game plan vanilla, and all the skill positions and Oline were basically back ups for 90% of the game, but they had to sit on a tarmac for about 5 hours before flying to Denver. The schedule was screwed for Saturday and that just parlays into an unorganized mess and result.
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Old 01-07-2025, 09:12 AM   #44
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Find me the "meh, whatever" que. I was a little shocked some of his plays were so bad. He really short armed some throws where he had a clean pocket.

But I can't find a single **** to give.
This.

The situation was terrible for him.

AND he played terrible. It wasn't just about him not being able to sit in a clean pocket and rip the ball every time. It was that there were instances when there WERE plays to be made and he just didn't put anything on the ball at all.

He looked more composed in the pocket than Oladokun but so would a labrador retriever. I wouldn't say he looked in command back there by any means.

No, he never had a chance to truly succeed but he DID have a chance to flash. He had a chance to show skills. He didn't.

That all said, I just don't give a shit.

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Old 01-07-2025, 09:14 AM   #45
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I’m certainly not blaming or holding it against him, but he didn’t impress either.

The 3rd stringer looked intriguing, kid can really move!
He put a final nail in his coffin to me. I have no use for Oladokun whatsoever going forward.

He just doesn't run the offense at all. From the moment he gets the snap, he's looking to run around and freelance.

He's going to be TWENTY EIGHT next off-season fellas. 28. He's no young kid. There's nothing more to develop here. Move along.
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