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I was against hiring Gun...but given our options he seemed like a reasonable choice....he was hired to change the "spirit" of defense, and since it seems, imho, that our defense has essentially given up half way through the year, and that they are arguably no better than last year, he has - so far- failed....miserably....
but, as has been mentioned, CP and DV bear the ultimate responsibility...they played on Gun's insane sense of loyalty and put him an impossible situation...the players on our defense are so lacking in talent, heart, desire, and pride that it is breathtaking... damn, it is cloudy outside today....
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yes, Gun is responsible....but they new of his insane connection to KC and they new he wouldn't say no....and, IMHO, they knew they putting him in a sad situation....but Gunther's connection to KC glory days was enough to divert everyone: please the fans, create some excitment, feed the talking heads etc....letting our sad D slip under the radar until now, where we find ourselves faced with the truth
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Vermeil claims that there will be no new starters on D this year. Is he in control or is Gunther? Gunther benched McCleon...
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I was in favor of hiring gun and I'm still in favor of him as DC....for now.
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The biggest mistake DV ever made was in not canning Grob and this pathetic secondary after the 2002 season. We have all known they were crap for about 4 seasons now. If he would have done that we would now be in season 2 of our Defensive rebuilding period.
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The failure of this defense does not fall on the shoulders of Gunther Cunningham. Past history has proven that the first year a new coach/coordinator takes over, barring a few instances, things are generally very rough. This defense was the laughing stock of the league for 3 years running, and they didnt bring in any new talent for year 4, and Gun's first crack at turning this thing around. Greg Robinson ran complicated, confusing, and utter bs schemes that he didnt have the talent to run. He refused to alter his scheme, and therefore the rankings never improved. Gunther runs a very basic, aggressive defense. Not as much confusion, but the fact remains that the players that are on the field are just not the caliber of players that can perform at a high level every week. Massive change is needed with this team, and its going to be a long time coming. Standing pat this last offseason only lengthened the problem. Im thinking it will take at least TWO GOOD OFFSEASONS on defense to even begin to turn this thing around. The caliber of defensive talent on the free agent list will most likely not match what was available last season. The Chiefs could have had shots at Jevon Kearse, Grant Wistrom, Robaire Smith, Troy Vincent, Bobby Taylor, Antoine Winfield, Joey porter....the list goes on. Granted, some of these guys were veteran players with only a season or two left, but they are definately better than any player on the Chiefs defensive roster right now. But they chose to re-sign all of the crap players that would have been leaving to long term contracts. If anyone should bear the brunt of this disaster, its Carl Peterson, and Lamar Hunt for not wanting something more for this team. |
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