Defensive Improvement in the 2nd Half

JohnnyV13 · 01-02-2006, 02:26 AM

The Chiefs D showed a marked improvement in the 2nd half of the season.

1st 8 games 22.87 ppg
2nd 8 games 17.75 ppg

Throw out non-offensive TDs vs. us you get:
22 ppg and 16.87 ppg.

Either way, that's a big improvement.

In yards per game:
1st 8 games: 355.25 ypg
2nd 8 games: 300.87 ypg

Any way you cut it, the D did much better in the 2nd half of the season. We might not be as far off as people think.

dj56dt58 · 01-02-2006, 02:36 AM

Just imagine if they hadn't forgotten how to tackle against the Giants or if the Refs hadn't ****ed them over every way imaginable against Dallas. They might have given up closer to 14 pts a game in the 2nd half...

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-02-2006, 02:39 AM

They played well. Except when it mattered most. Dallas and NYG...

Deberg_1990 · 01-02-2006, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

They played well. Except when it mattered most.

Thats sums up the Dick Vermeil KC era in a nutshell. I just knew. I knew deep down that they would come out like worldbeaters these last two games of the season. Too little, too late.......Frustrating....

htismaqe · 01-02-2006, 07:00 AM

The defense did NOT improve in the last half of the season.

Stats, schmats. Watch the fuggin games and you'd see that they weren't better.

They put up some good games at home, like they always do.

But this defense lost the NY and Dallas games all by themselves.

StcChief · 01-02-2006, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

The defense did NOT improve in the last half of the season.

Stats, schmats. Watch the fuggin games and you'd see that they weren't better.

They put up some good games at home, like they always do.

But this defense lost the NY and Dallas games all by themselves.

Wrong on Dallas. AS play calling before half time.

Dallas game 10-14 point swing at half time
1:42 ball on the 9.
Passes ???? WTF. LJ runs for TD at least FG. They dont score before half.

We win that game.

King_Chief_Fan · 01-02-2006, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyV13

The Chiefs D showed a marked improvement in the 2nd half of the season.

1st 8 games 22.87 ppg
2nd 8 games 17.75 ppg

Throw out non-offensive TDs vs. us you get:
22 ppg and 16.87 ppg.

Either way, that's a big improvement.

In yards per game:
1st 8 games: 355.25 ypg
2nd 8 games: 300.87 ypg

Any way you cut it, the D did much better in the 2nd half of the season. We might not be as far off as people think.

stats aside........the giants, cowboy and bills games were not great defense efforts. That is at least 3 of the 8. Of course the O could have been better in the bills game.

siberian khatru · 01-02-2006, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

stats aside........the giants, cowboy and bills games were not great defense efforts.

How is the Bills game not a great defensive effort? They gave up 14 points and 209 total yards. Warfield got burned on ONE play, the other TD was a perfect throw and catch.

B_Ambuehl · 01-02-2006, 10:04 AM

Bullshit.

They had 2 entire road games to make a 2nd half stop for a playoff spot and couldn't get it done.

When they looked good more often then not it was due to poor offense not good defense. Every good home defensive effort was helped by drop balls, fumbled snaps, etc.

Until the ahtleticism of the secondary is imporved and the defensive line is gutted out and shitcanned this pass defense will be in the lower 1/4 of the NFL.

bkkcoh · 01-02-2006, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

The defense did NOT improve in the last half of the season.

Stats, schmats. Watch the fuggin games and you'd see that they weren't better.

They put up some good games at home, like they always do.

But this defense lost the NY and Dallas games all by themselves.

But the offense stunk it up in Buffalo against a far more inferior team.
Not to mention the Giants game..... at worst, that game should have been a real shoot out....

Don't lay all of the blame on the defense this year..... The games that Roaf missed the offense stunk with very few exceptions. Need O-line depth, I do think that we did get some of that.... But did we get enough, I am not sure.

phxchief · 01-02-2006, 10:33 AM

It certainly improved, and we faced some top offenses in the 2nd half. Anyone who thinks it got worse or made no improvement is a ****ing idiot.

I don't recall the defense making any big stand in the Philly game. Because, you know, one or two stated games is EVERYTHING.

Mr. Laz · 01-02-2006, 10:40 AM

i think the kind of offenses we played in the 2nd half on the road has something to do with the improved numbers.

1st half - avg 12th

@Oakland - 21st
@Denver - 5th
@Miami - 14th
@San Diego - 10th

2nd half - avg 19th

@Buffalo -28th
@Houston - 30th
@Dallas - 13th
@N.Y. Giants - 4th

pretty clear to me that we faced more difficult offenses on the road in the 1st half.

our defense is better at home though ... the whole team is crazy better at home.

01-02-2006, 02:26 AM
JohnnyV13 Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tucson AZ Casino cash: $6115200	Defensive Improvement in the 2nd Half The Chiefs D showed a marked improvement in the 2nd half of the season. 1st 8 games 22.87 ppg 2nd 8 games 17.75 ppg Throw out non-offensive TDs vs. us you get: 22 ppg and 16.87 ppg. Either way, that's a big improvement. In yards per game: 1st 8 games: 355.25 ypg 2nd 8 games: 300.87 ypg Any way you cut it, the D did much better in the 2nd half of the season. We might not be as far off as people think.
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01-02-2006, 02:36 AM	#2
dj56dt58 Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $9960055	Just imagine if they hadn't forgotten how to tackle against the Giants or if the Refs hadn't ****ed them over every way imaginable against Dallas. They might have given up closer to 14 pts a game in the 2nd half...
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01-02-2006, 07:00 AM	#5
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	The defense did NOT improve in the last half of the season. Stats, schmats. Watch the fuggin games and you'd see that they weren't better. They put up some good games at home, like they always do. But this defense lost the NY and Dallas games all by themselves.
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01-02-2006, 10:04 AM	#9
B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $9805405	Bullshit. They had 2 entire road games to make a 2nd half stop for a playoff spot and couldn't get it done. When they looked good more often then not it was due to poor offense not good defense. Every good home defensive effort was helped by drop balls, fumbled snaps, etc. Until the ahtleticism of the secondary is imporved and the defensive line is gutted out and shitcanned this pass defense will be in the lower 1/4 of the NFL. __________________ Who's decision was it to fire Romeo" - Coleman C Hunt: "It was my decision but it was one that Scott agreed with" LOL
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phxchief Disasterpiece Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Shawn Marion owns you Casino cash: $10004900	It certainly improved, and we faced some top offenses in the 2nd half. Anyone who thinks it got worse or made no improvement is a ****ing idiot. I don't recall the defense making any big stand in the Philly game. Because, you know, one or two stated games is EVERYTHING.
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01-02-2006, 10:40 AM	#12
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	i think the kind of offenses we played in the 2nd half on the road has something to do with the improved numbers. 1st half - avg 12th @Oakland - 21st @Denver - 5th @Miami - 14th @San Diego - 10th 2nd half - avg 19th @Buffalo -28th @Houston - 30th @Dallas - 13th @N.Y. Giants - 4th pretty clear to me that we faced more difficult offenses on the road in the 1st half. our defense is better at home though ... the whole team is crazy better at home. __________________
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