Has CP told the offensive staff they have jobs under Edwards?

FringeNC · 01-05-2006, 08:40 PM

What do you guys think? Is CP just going to let the staff go with Saunders, or is he trying to get them to stay under Edwards?

Solari better have a huge offer on the table from us.

Things move quickly. We can't wait on this Edwards thing before attempting to lock up these coaches.

nascher · 01-05-2006, 08:42 PM

we can't lock up coaches without a HC.

Logical · 01-05-2006, 08:42 PM

Well since Edwards has not become the Chiefs HC at this point, isn't this speculation just a little bit silly?

FringeNC · 01-05-2006, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by nascher

we can't lock up coaches without a HC.

Why not? If it's going to be Edwards or Saunders, I think we can and should. Edwards doesn't know anything about offense.

FringeNC · 01-05-2006, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

Well since Edwards has not become the Chiefs HC at this point, isn't this speculation just a little bit silly?

Not really. He can approach the assistands and ask them what they think about working on Edwards, and let them know they have contracts if indeed it is Edwards.

nychief · 01-05-2006, 08:45 PM

they are all under contract till Feb 1st....

Logical · 01-05-2006, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

Not really. He can approach the assistands and ask them what they think about working on Edwards, and let them know they have contracts if indeed it is Edwards.

First of all I would hope we are not getting another Gunther where a HC gets his assistants dictated to him. I am not all that thrilled with Herm, but I would hate it if Vermiel was dictating his staff. It is a moot point if Al is staying so I don't even know why you mentioned it.

FringeNC · 01-05-2006, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

First of all I would hope we are not getting another Gunther where a HC gets his assistants dictated to him. I am not all that thrilled with Herm, but I would hate it if Vermiel was dictating his staff. It is a moot point if Al is staying so I don't even know why you mentioned it.

Dungy has had his offensive staff dictated to him in Indy, and it has worked out so far. It just don't want Herm Edwards anywhere near this offense.

FringeNC · 01-05-2006, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief

they are all under contract till Feb 1st....

You sure about that?

Mr. Christopher · 01-05-2006, 08:54 PM

First off, I don't like the Herm Edwards choice as HC. It would be great if Al Saunders would stay on as OC, and Edwards could focus on the defense. I don't think that will happen, though, because I believe that Saunders will be a HC somewhere.

I still hold out hope that Edwards does NOT hire on ANYONE from the Jets. I DO NOT want to see the Chiefs revert back to some form of Marty Ball. If Saunders does not stay on as OC, I hope that Edwards is able to bring in Mike Martz or someone of similar offensive mind to keep this offense moving forward.

To me, that's the challenge of the upcoming years. The defense will get better, but the offense is old, and I'm afraid of what it will look like under someone other than Vermeil.

Sure-Oz · 01-05-2006, 09:05 PM

The offensive system must stay intact, no way we scrap it, its been too damn good!

siberian khatru · 01-05-2006, 09:22 PM

I think Solari's got one year left on his contract.

tk13 · 01-05-2006, 09:25 PM

The Jets actually did not play some form of old school "Martyball" this year. I think some people need to get their facts straight about that. Edwards had often complained about Hackett being too conservative, and they dumped Hackett and hired Mike Heimerdinger from the Titans before this last season, who runs a more aggressive offense. He was the OC who used Billy Volek and Drew Bennett to torch Gun a couple years ago when we played them on MNF. They never really had the opportunity to get off the ground this year offensively though because it wasn't but a couple weeks in and Pennington and Fiedler were both gone...

I don't think Herm is afraid of scoring points. I'm not really all that worried about it. Just like Gun said when he came here, any defensive coach would love to work with an offense like ours. The question will be can the offensive coaches that remain do as good of a job as Saunders did.

FringeNC · 01-05-2006, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

The Jets actually did not play some form of old school "Martyball" this year. I think some people need to get their facts straight about that. Edwards had often complained about Hackett being too conservative, and they dumped Hackett and hired Mike Heimerdinger from the Titans before this last season, who runs a more aggressive offense. He was the OC who used Billy Volek and Drew Bennett to torch Gun a couple years ago when we played them on MNF. They never really had the opportunity to get off the ground this year offensively though because it wasn't but a couple weeks in and Pennington and Fiedler were both gone...

I don't think Herm is afraid of scoring points. I'm not really all that worried about it. Just like Gun said when he came here, any defensive coach would love to work with an offense like ours. The question will be can the offensive coaches that remain do as good of a job as Saunders did.

Edwards was complaining about Hackett being too conservative? Well, why didn't he tell him to open it up?

tk13 · 01-05-2006, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

Edwards was complaining about Hackett being too conservative? Well, why didn't he tell him to open it up?

He did. He wanted the offense to be more up-tempo, have more audibles, no huddle, stuff like that. I guess Hackett told him he'd try and do better, I really don't know, but Hackett didn't do it... that's why he still basically got canned after a playoff season.

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Mr. Christopher Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN Casino cash: $10014105	First off, I don't like the Herm Edwards choice as HC. It would be great if Al Saunders would stay on as OC, and Edwards could focus on the defense. I don't think that will happen, though, because I believe that Saunders will be a HC somewhere. I still hold out hope that Edwards does NOT hire on ANYONE from the Jets. I DO NOT want to see the Chiefs revert back to some form of Marty Ball. If Saunders does not stay on as OC, I hope that Edwards is able to bring in Mike Martz or someone of similar offensive mind to keep this offense moving forward. To me, that's the challenge of the upcoming years. The defense will get better, but the offense is old, and I'm afraid of what it will look like under someone other than Vermeil.
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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1612500	The Jets actually did not play some form of old school "Martyball" this year. I think some people need to get their facts straight about that. Edwards had often complained about Hackett being too conservative, and they dumped Hackett and hired Mike Heimerdinger from the Titans before this last season, who runs a more aggressive offense. He was the OC who used Billy Volek and Drew Bennett to torch Gun a couple years ago when we played them on MNF. They never really had the opportunity to get off the ground this year offensively though because it wasn't but a couple weeks in and Pennington and Fiedler were both gone... I don't think Herm is afraid of scoring points. I'm not really all that worried about it. Just like Gun said when he came here, any defensive coach would love to work with an offense like ours. The question will be can the offensive coaches that remain do as good of a job as Saunders did.
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