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03-24-2006, 01:04 AM | #2 |
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Why are you upgrading??? Seems to me from looking at what you have to what you are thinking about you are just blowing money...
If you are using it to burn movies, either use the dvdrw more or get an external hd... Your dell should allow you to get either a agp card or at least a pci, if you are not gaming there is no need for a top notch graphics card... Your biggest need to help is buy a gig of ram to add to it, that way you are running 1.7g of memory... |
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03-24-2006, 08:58 AM | #3 | |
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03-24-2006, 05:18 PM | #4 |
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Add of the price of all the upgrades.. And then look around, It might be cheaper just to buy new...
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I think you seriously underestimate the power of Newegg DVD-RW DL 40.00 Bucks DVD-Rom 18.00 512 MB Ram=35.00 Asus MOBO=89 Decent AGP Graphics Card=$50 Antec Case (w/ high quality power supply) $100 250 GB SATA HD=$80 I've already bought the first two items. For around 400 dollars I'd have a system w/ 1.5 GB of ram, 330 GB of storage w/ a P4 running at 3.0GHZ, a DVD-DL, DVD-Rom, and a case with great airflow and room for future upgrades. The ASUS MOBO would also let me overclock the processor, and the room for extra fans will still keep the system stable. With that said, I appreciate the input. The big thing that I'd like to know (that I currently don't) is how much a Socket 478 system will bottleneck me in the future.
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You can buy a Socket 478 P4 Extreme Edition that will run at 3.4 Ghz, with a 2MB L2 cache, but it will cost you. I got a hell of a deal on mine, and it ran me about $600. A quick google shows they go for an average of $800-$1K.
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04-01-2006, 07:50 PM | #7 |
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i already have a socket 478 p4 running at 3.0 ghz w/ ht, 800 mhz FSB, and 1MB cache. I don't need the processor.
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04-01-2006, 10:23 PM | #8 |
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That's not bad at all. The P4 3.4 EE is the fastest you can get for the Socket 478, is all. Yours should be fine for a good while yet.
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04-02-2006, 12:16 PM | #9 |
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With that being said, can anyone answer my original questions? Please, pretty please
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1) When I get a new board and install everything, I’m going to have to call Microsoft and ask them to allow me to use XP on this machine since it will “lock” when I switch out the old Dell components. Do they regularly allow this, and what will I have to do on my end in order to complete the switch? I think they limit you to 1 or two switches. You will have to call M$, and get a code/approval from what others have told me. 2) I’ve heard that the Dell Power Supply for the 3000/4600 series is listed at 250 watts, but actually has a peak about 100 watts over that. Will this PSU be able to run the config I want that is listed below without worrying about burning anything out? I'm not certain, and can't find any info. However, you should be able to find a more powerful one for cheap with Pricewatch or Newegg. 3) How difficult is removing the processor, and will I have to get a new heat sink?(is the old heat sink a Dell proprietary part)? Removing a socket 478 is pretty simple. I switched from the 2.4 that came with mine to the new one quite easily. Similar to an old Pentium ZIF IMO. You might take this opportunity to upgrade the heat sink and CPU fan. I would, but I'm a bit obsessed with cooling. 4) If I add a SATA HD, should I, or can I migrate XP onto this instead of the old HD? JMO, but I've never had much luck in the long term migrating M$ OS's. Fresh Install is the way to go. As for switching to SATA, why not, if cash isn't a problem? Hope this helps...
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04-02-2006, 05:09 PM | #11 |
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I feel you on the obsession w/ cooling. I just bought an old power supply on ebay to run two 80 mm fans that I have on top of my A/V receiver that has plenty of clearance. I don't know about the fresh install of XP, primarily b/c I lack the install disk, and I don't wont to drop the bones on a goddamned OS that is going to be obsolete by November anyway.
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One more thing about the cooling--the Dell heatsink already in there is MASSIVE, and it's all copper w/ a fan, so I wonder how much of an upgrade something like a Zalman fan would really be. On the other hand, if I do pull it, I could probably use some arctic silver compound as a thermal conductor, b/c I've heard great things about it.
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04-02-2006, 05:38 PM | #13 |
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why the hell are you buying a dvd-rw AND a dvd-rom?
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LOL, ok....but I think you waste more than 20 bucks in bad dvd's before you would have replace the drive from over use.
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