Green on Croyle. - Page 2

jspchief · 04-30-2006, 09:40 AM

It's the young guy's place to shut your mouth and pay attention. Not the vet's place to put his arm around the rookie and mentor him, it's the coach's job.

Sounds like he's not real eager to help develop Croyle. A little disappointing.

**buddha** · 04-30-2006, 09:50 AM

Green's responsibility is to run the offense...period. He's not there to "groom" anybody or make sure KC has a successor ready when it's time for him to go. Personally, I'd rather he focus on his job and leave the coaching to the coaches.

FAX · 04-30-2006, 09:51 AM

Green restructured his contract to help the team build defense and they draft a QB.

Green has a job to do. He wants to win as much as anyone.

Green is not a baby sitter.

If the baby QB has a question, Green will answer it.

No problems here with Green.

FAX

milkman · 04-30-2006, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

He did say he'd answer questions. But he didn't really sound like he was too eager to help.

Can't say I blame him. It would be nice for older players to recognize when they are nearing the end though and be cooperative about making the next geberation of the team better. I know it's a bit candyland, but I think to think of my team as a bunch of the good guys.

I thought he was trying to be a little diplomatic in his response, in light of Favre's response to the same question last season.

Wile_E_Coyote · 04-30-2006, 09:52 AM

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Chief Roundup · 04-30-2006, 09:54 AM

All of the other players on the show agreed and basicly said the same thing.

chief52 · 04-30-2006, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SideWinder

I thought it was more like he said it's not his job to to chase him down and offer up info, but if the kid wants to come to him, he has an open policy, and will answer any questions he has.

That is what I heard as well. Good, open, honest and correct answer if you ask me. He gets to watch everything he does 24/7 and listen to him in all meetings. He will have more than he can soak in there...

Fish · 04-30-2006, 10:16 AM

Trent is gonna haze the shit out of Croyle's ass.......

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bringbackmarty · 04-30-2006, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX

Green restructured his contract to help the team build defense and they draft a QB.

Green has a job to do. He wants to win as much as anyone.

Green is not a baby sitter.

If the baby QB has a question, Green will answer it.

No problems here with Green.

FAX

Exactly, where the **** is his wide reciever carl has been promising him for 3 years.

Moooo · 04-30-2006, 10:35 AM

Green has had a long road to being a starter, and I think he's maybe getting a little worried being the man in an offense where the coach isn't in love with him :-) I don't think Herm's gonna go messing with the only QB to throw for over 4,000 yards the last 3 seasons, but 3-4 years from now, Green will be flat out old. QB takes time, for example, IMO Phillip Rivers is starting at an ideal time.

Moooo

**dirk digler** · 04-30-2006, 10:37 AM

I am curious how you guys deal when your company hires a new guy that does the same job as you. Do you go out of your way to show the new guy everything or do you let him figure it out on his own?

**jAZ** · 04-30-2006, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

I think the idea of vets embracing and teaching rookies is largely a myth...this is about jobs...

If you've watched the Priest Holmes edition of beyond the glory, you'll hear Jamal Lewis talk about how supportive and generous Priest was in supporting him. Priest even scheduled their weekly RB film sessions at Jamal's house to be sure he was there and spent each session coaching Jamal... who immediately took his starting job.

JBucc · 04-30-2006, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jAZ

If you've watched the Priest Holmes edition of beyond the glory, you'll hear Jamal Lewis talk about how supportive and generous Priest was in supporting him. Priest even scheduled their weekly RB film sessions at Jamal's house to be sure he was there and spent each session coaching Jamal... who immediately took his starting job.

Which is probably why he didn't want to mentor LJ and Green doesn't want to go out of his way to mentor Croyle. Last time Green lost his job, his replacement led his team to the Super Bowl.

ChiefFripp · 04-30-2006, 10:40 AM

You want the truth?! You can't handle the TRUTH!

Well I'd rather Green tell it like it is instead of spoonfeeding us sugar-coated words that we can eat up readily.

**jAZ** · 04-30-2006, 10:42 AM

My guess is Trent will do a great deal to help him, and part of it starts with "tough love" of sorts, by being consistant in reinforcing that no one can help a rookie more than the rookie himself.

Once a rookie adopts that mentality, they have already learned their first very important lesson about success in the NFL.

CoMoChief · 04-30-2006, 10:43 AM

Why does everyone think that veterans will immediately mentor a rookie QB? IIRC We have a new OC and Trent Green has enough concerns right now with learning somwhat new plays and some new terminology, mentoring a QB that probably wont start a game for us for at least 3 seasons (including this upcoming one) is more than likely not on his priority list.

If Croyle wants to learn the ropes its up to him to show the initiative that he wants to learn. I'm more than sure that if he wants to learn from Green, that Green will be more than happy to teach him whatever he can because Trent is a fantastic teammate, but having that said, its totally up to Croyle because Croyle has to take into account that he'll be riding the pine a few seasons.

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CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7972254	Why does everyone think that veterans will immediately mentor a rookie QB? IIRC We have a new OC and Trent Green has enough concerns right now with learning somwhat new plays and some new terminology, mentoring a QB that probably wont start a game for us for at least 3 seasons (including this upcoming one) is more than likely not on his priority list. If Croyle wants to learn the ropes its up to him to show the initiative that he wants to learn. I'm more than sure that if he wants to learn from Green, that Green will be more than happy to teach him whatever he can because Trent is a fantastic teammate, but having that said, its totally up to Croyle because Croyle has to take into account that he'll be riding the pine a few seasons. __________________
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