Grade the 2006 Draft

jspchief · 04-30-2006, 04:03 PM

OK girls. Now's your chance to put your money where your mouth is and grade this draft. Yea, yea, I know. Can't grade a draft for another 3-4 years. We obviously don't know what any of these players can do, so we're talking about pure speculation.

Based on your expectations of what these guys can do for the Chiefs, where does this draft grade out?

Hammock Parties · 04-30-2006, 04:04 PM

I give them a B+

Second day was outstanding.

jspchief · 04-30-2006, 04:07 PM

I'm going with a B-

I thought day 1 was a B or B+, but I'm not as excited about day 2. I felt we passed on a few guys.

Overall, this draft has me about as excited as I can remember, mainly because of the Croyle pick.

JBucc · 04-30-2006, 04:08 PM

yesterday it was a C now its a B+

Coach · 04-30-2006, 04:16 PM

C+/B- depending on how you want to grade it. I'll say that it doesn't look sexy, but it doesn't look ugly either.

Hali - We need someone to supplant Hicks at LE and Carlos Hall can't do that. Based on his 11 sack season in the Big Ten last year and being a 1st team All American at his position in 2005 the ONLY REASON that he wasn't a top ten pick was because of his workouts.

To by quite honest, I don't care if he runs a 10 flat forty if the guy can pull 11 sacks in a 14 game season. The kid can play, so he's okay in my book. Especially with some of the jokers on our defense. And yes, he had 2 sacks last year in his junior year, but I do strongly suggest that you look at his TFL (tackles for losses) and tackles. They have increased from his Jr year to Sr year. Hopefully we'll have some T-shirts of "The Liberian Nightmare" soon.

Pollard - This one is confusing, yet at the same time, intruging. One thing is for certain that most experts agree that he is a solid tackling and weak on the coverage skills. Plus, let's see who's our safties on the roster:

Woods: Yeah, let's not go there.
Bartee: See above.
Wesley: Inconsistent at best, and is scared shitless to hit someone.
Knight: Seems to be the consistent one, but is getting old.

This one is a big ? mark. Of course, at the same time, when was the last time the Chiefs had a "headhunter" safety?

Croyle - Good pick. I wasn't confident on Whitehurst, and I would had perferred Croyle instead. Kid's a gamer, and does actually make smart decisions. It didn't help Croyle that the fact that Alabama had to revamp their O-line, along with the lines of losing their #1 WR to a broken leg.

Maxey - Not a bad pick. I would think he could be a CB or a FS, one of the two.

The other 3, meh, I'm not too sure about. Still a solid draft though.

**banyon** · 04-30-2006, 04:18 PM

Rd. 1: Hali = C no one has been able to convince me that this guy wouldn't have been available at 30 and if not someone with similar ability would've been there. I really hope he works out, because pass rush is one of our weakest areas.

Rd. 2: Pollard = F this guy was a 4th rounder according to nearly everyone. more than that he duplicates positions we already have. Total reach.

Rd. 3: Brodie Croyle = A great value. First QBOTF that has a real shot to be a QBOTF. like his ability and heart.

Rd. 4: Herm = B+ considering the player the Jets picked here maybe I could rate this pick higher.

Rd. 5: Marcus Maxey = C FS candidate who is three steps slow. hopefully he will rock on SP teams.

Rd. 6. Tre Stallings/ Jeff Webb = A+ As you can see from my new avy, I like the Webb pick. (it's an A+++, which averages out with my B excitement over Stallings to an A+). Stallings looks like he mightbe molded Svitek style.

Rd. 7. Jarrad Page. = D- Did we really need another

safety? he's sure to be cut, but at least someone else might've had a better shotat the scout team.

**the Talking Can** · 04-30-2006, 04:20 PM

B....I don't know anything about the second day guys, so I can't really judge...love Hali and Croyle...obviously if we found a QB this will have been an A draft...I'm nervouse about the rest of our picks though, even our 2nd...

Thig Lyfe · 04-30-2006, 04:21 PM

B

Not as exciting as getting DJ last year, but still pretty good picks. Some reaching occured, yes, but stealing Croyle made up for it. He's the best pick in this draft, IMO.

The Offense is not in the same decline we thought it was this time last year. In three years we could have Croyle, LJ, and Samie Parker leading a similarly prolific squad.

Tamba Hali is a very good pick, because he's finally a good lineman who also has work ethic and good character! Who woulda thunk such a thing existed! After fatasses like Sims and Siavii, and general failures like Eddie Freeman, Hali is a breath of fresh air and will have Eric Hicks's job by the end of the season. His presence can boost the pass rush, thus making the whole defense more efficient. Jared Allen plus Hali at his potential equals a potentiall top tier D-line.

I'm happy.

ChiefsCountry · 04-30-2006, 04:29 PM

I gave it a B. We had a good first day, while second day wasnt the best it was okay.

htismaqe · 04-30-2006, 04:29 PM

the meltdown factor alone pushes it into the A- range

**Rausch** · 04-30-2006, 04:30 PM

B.

We had a chance to grab one of the top 4 CB's in this draft and I hate the idea of a 1 year Law deal or just going with what we've got.

Outside of that position we hit every need. What really impressed me was rounds 3-7. Each and every pick was solid and I think we got some steals...

**HemiEd** · 04-30-2006, 04:35 PM

I give it an A-, I like them all.

**Reaper16** · 04-30-2006, 04:43 PM

B-
If only because we didn't have a 4th round pick to take advantage of. Ideally, it could have been managed better. I'm not sold on the 5th round pick. Also, we could have made a worthwhile pick in the 7th, but we chose a guy who might not make the team. (Whereas I think Gordon, Steve Williams or Dave Tollefson would have)

CoMoChief · 04-30-2006, 04:43 PM

Hali...B-, I'm warming up more to this pick because I've seen a few videos of him and watched him play in the orange bowl. Hopefully Hicks is a goner.

Pollard...F, typical Kansas City Chiefs reach on the 2nd day. I knew something like this was coming. Darnell Bing would have been my choice instead. IMO we already have 2 safeties that can hit but cant cover ground in the secondary.

Croyle...A+, this is a steal IMO. This guy is a gamer and Im surprised he fell this far in the draft. This is our QBOTF if he can stay healthy.

Maxey...C-, I dont know too much about this guy. Why? Because he hardly played in any games. This is a project S in the works IMO. The only upside I see here is his size and the fact that he comes from the U, were the talent is at its best in NCAA football.

Tre Stallings, D+ Personally I wanted Rod Wright because as of now our DT's are the shittiest thing about our defense. We will never have a good pass rush from up the middle. Wright was a dominant player most of the time. We have a few OT's already and I think the way Svitek is panning out in NFLE, we wont need to address that, at least for now. That can wait til next season or when Raof retires and becomes our Oline coach

Jeff Webb,...A-, this is another sleeper pick IMO. He fell down to us and he could become a Keyshawn Johnson like WR for us. Im excited about him.

Page,...F....Why another safety??? This is another example of the usual PAC-10 suck off that Peterson drafts every year.

htismaqe · 04-30-2006, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BSPimpDude

Hali...B-, I'm warming up more to this pick because I've seen a few videos of him and watched him play in the orange bowl. Hopefully Hicks is a goner.

Pollard...F, typical Kansas City Chiefs reach on the 2nd day. I knew something like this was coming. Darnell Bing would have been my choice instead. IMO we already have 2 safeties that can hit but cant cover ground in the secondary.

Croyle...A+, this is a steal IMO. This guy is a gamer and Im surprised he fell this far in the draft. This is our QBOTF if he can stay healthy.

Maxey...C-, I dont know too much about this guy. Why? Because he hardly played in any games. This is a project S in the works IMO. The only upside I see here is his size and the fact that he comes from the U, were the talent is at its best in NCAA football.

Tre Stallings, D+ Personally I wanted Rod Wright because as of now our DT's are the shittiest thing about our defense. We will never have a good pass rush from up the middle. Wright was a dominant player most of the time. We have a few OT's already and I think the way Svitek is panning out in NFLE, we wont need to address that, at least for now. That can wait til next season or when Raof retires and becomes our Oline coach

Jeff Webb,...A-, this is another sleeper pick IMO. He fell down to us and he could become a Keyshawn Johnson like WR for us. Im excited about him.

Page,...F....Why another safety??? This is another example of the usual PAC-10 suck off that Peterson drafts every year.

Yeah, we could have drafted Bing who's smaller, slower, and not as good of a tackler. Not to mention that he's being moved to LB.

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04-30-2006, 04:03 PM
jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	Grade the 2006 Draft OK girls. Now's your chance to put your money where your mouth is and grade this draft. Yea, yea, I know. Can't grade a draft for another 3-4 years. We obviously don't know what any of these players can do, so we're talking about pure speculation. Based on your expectations of what these guys can do for the Chiefs, where does this draft grade out?
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04-30-2006, 04:04 PM	#2
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4430478	I give them a B+ Second day was outstanding.
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04-30-2006, 04:07 PM	#3
jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	I'm going with a B- I thought day 1 was a B or B+, but I'm not as excited about day 2. I felt we passed on a few guys. Overall, this draft has me about as excited as I can remember, mainly because of the Croyle pick. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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04-30-2006, 04:08 PM	#4
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04-30-2006, 04:16 PM	#5
Coach Champs! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $5778476	C+/B- depending on how you want to grade it. I'll say that it doesn't look sexy, but it doesn't look ugly either. Hali - We need someone to supplant Hicks at LE and Carlos Hall can't do that. Based on his 11 sack season in the Big Ten last year and being a 1st team All American at his position in 2005 the ONLY REASON that he wasn't a top ten pick was because of his workouts. To by quite honest, I don't care if he runs a 10 flat forty if the guy can pull 11 sacks in a 14 game season. The kid can play, so he's okay in my book. Especially with some of the jokers on our defense. And yes, he had 2 sacks last year in his junior year, but I do strongly suggest that you look at his TFL (tackles for losses) and tackles. They have increased from his Jr year to Sr year. Hopefully we'll have some T-shirts of "The Liberian Nightmare" soon. Pollard - This one is confusing, yet at the same time, intruging. One thing is for certain that most experts agree that he is a solid tackling and weak on the coverage skills. Plus, let's see who's our safties on the roster: Woods: Yeah, let's not go there. Bartee: See above. Wesley: Inconsistent at best, and is scared shitless to hit someone. Knight: Seems to be the consistent one, but is getting old. This one is a big ? mark. Of course, at the same time, when was the last time the Chiefs had a "headhunter" safety? Croyle - Good pick. I wasn't confident on Whitehurst, and I would had perferred Croyle instead. Kid's a gamer, and does actually make smart decisions. It didn't help Croyle that the fact that Alabama had to revamp their O-line, along with the lines of losing their #1 WR to a broken leg. Maxey - Not a bad pick. I would think he could be a CB or a FS, one of the two. The other 3, meh, I'm not too sure about. Still a solid draft though. __________________ Super Bowl IV, LIV, LVII & LVIII Champions 2020, 2021, 2023, & 2024 AFC Champions 1985 & 2015 Major League Baseball World Series Champions 1980, 1985, 2014, & 2015 Major League Baseball American League Champions 2015 American League Central Division Champs
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04-30-2006, 04:18 PM	#6
banyon Supporter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hermosa, SD Casino cash: $10176551	Rd. 1: Hali = C no one has been able to convince me that this guy wouldn't have been available at 30 and if not someone with similar ability would've been there. I really hope he works out, because pass rush is one of our weakest areas. Rd. 2: Pollard = F this guy was a 4th rounder according to nearly everyone. more than that he duplicates positions we already have. Total reach. Rd. 3: Brodie Croyle = A great value. First QBOTF that has a real shot to be a QBOTF. like his ability and heart. Rd. 4: Herm = B+ considering the player the Jets picked here maybe I could rate this pick higher. Rd. 5: Marcus Maxey = C FS candidate who is three steps slow. hopefully he will rock on SP teams. Rd. 6. Tre Stallings/ Jeff Webb = A+ As you can see from my new avy, I like the Webb pick. (it's an A+++, which averages out with my B excitement over Stallings to an A+). Stallings looks like he mightbe molded Svitek style. Rd. 7. Jarrad Page. = D- Did we really need another safety? he's sure to be cut, but at least someone else might've had a better shotat the scout team. __________________ “When war breaks out people say: 'It won't last, it's too stupid.' And war is certainly too stupid, but that doesn't prevent It from lasting.” ~Albert Camus, The Plague.
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04-30-2006, 04:20 PM	#7
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $10022208	B....I don't know anything about the second day guys, so I can't really judge...love Hali and Croyle...obviously if we found a QB this will have been an A draft...I'm nervouse about the rest of our picks though, even our 2nd... __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
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04-30-2006, 04:21 PM	#8
Thig Lyfe Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Thigpen's America Casino cash: $10004900	B Not as exciting as getting DJ last year, but still pretty good picks. Some reaching occured, yes, but stealing Croyle made up for it. He's the best pick in this draft, IMO. The Offense is not in the same decline we thought it was this time last year. In three years we could have Croyle, LJ, and Samie Parker leading a similarly prolific squad. Tamba Hali is a very good pick, because he's finally a good lineman who also has work ethic and good character! Who woulda thunk such a thing existed! After fatasses like Sims and Siavii, and general failures like Eddie Freeman, Hali is a breath of fresh air and will have Eric Hicks's job by the end of the season. His presence can boost the pass rush, thus making the whole defense more efficient. Jared Allen plus Hali at his potential equals a potentiall top tier D-line. I'm happy.
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04-30-2006, 04:29 PM	#9
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htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	the meltdown factor alone pushes it into the A- range
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04-30-2006, 04:35 PM	#12
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04-30-2006, 04:43 PM	#14
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $8032254	Hali...B-, I'm warming up more to this pick because I've seen a few videos of him and watched him play in the orange bowl. Hopefully Hicks is a goner. Pollard...F, typical Kansas City Chiefs reach on the 2nd day. I knew something like this was coming. Darnell Bing would have been my choice instead. IMO we already have 2 safeties that can hit but cant cover ground in the secondary. Croyle...A+, this is a steal IMO. This guy is a gamer and Im surprised he fell this far in the draft. This is our QBOTF if he can stay healthy. Maxey...C-, I dont know too much about this guy. Why? Because he hardly played in any games. This is a project S in the works IMO. The only upside I see here is his size and the fact that he comes from the U, were the talent is at its best in NCAA football. Tre Stallings, D+ Personally I wanted Rod Wright because as of now our DT's are the shittiest thing about our defense. We will never have a good pass rush from up the middle. Wright was a dominant player most of the time. We have a few OT's already and I think the way Svitek is panning out in NFLE, we wont need to address that, at least for now. That can wait til next season or when Raof retires and becomes our Oline coach Jeff Webb,...A-, this is another sleeper pick IMO. He fell down to us and he could become a Keyshawn Johnson like WR for us. Im excited about him. Page,...F....Why another safety??? This is another example of the usual PAC-10 suck off that Peterson drafts every year. __________________
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