Are you a FF baller or a homer? - Page 5

Logical · 08-15-2006, 01:49 AM

If you say you are taking LJ count yourself as a homer.

If you say Shawn Alexander then count yourself as a baller

If you are in a league with QBs that get 6 then you have other options.

This could all change if Roaf comes back so for now assume Roaf is not coming back.

Logical · 08-15-2006, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner 338

I don't play in PPR league but this discussion made me go to our site and do a little homework from last year.

Had 1 point per reception been awarded in our league the final numbers between LJ and Steve Smith would've been almost 30 points higher for LJ and he didn't even start the entire year.

LJ.....368.3

Smith..339.8

I'm just trying to figure out your leagues scoring that would = Smith ahead of LJ.

Our league also awards 1/10th of a point per yard gained and 6 pts for td.

We set up our scoring to give WRs a slight advantage if they get a lot of receptions, that is what makes a RB who catches a lot of balls so valuable, also the game to game consistency is far better with WRs and RBs who get a lot of catches. In the past the absolute studs have been LT, Priest, and Marshall Faulk.

Logical · 08-15-2006, 06:36 PM

By the way I can handle normal rules and a 12 team league, I have won one and placed third in the other in the only two I have ever played in. While everyone went nuts on RBs I took Peyton Manning and he threw 49 TDs for me. I had shitty RBs but I was killing them week in and week out with Peyton.

Valiant · 08-15-2006, 06:36 PM

The top 3 backs no matter what scoring system and their possible outcomes from the Valiant FF book:

Alexander: Loss of Hutch hurts Alexanders TD mark, but with the loss of Joe Jurivicious and Hutch their passing game will take more of a hit.. This forces the ball to Alexander more this year, his ypc will take a hit but he should have the same amount if not a little bit more yards but less TDs.. Alexander also plays in one of the worse divisions agianst week run D's

LT: The loss of Brees will force teams to stack more agianst the run and Gates because they will hope to fluster Rivers. Rivers will dump off the ball to LT more then last year to help Rivers that and Schotty is the Coach and will drive that into his head and play conservative.. LT will take a loss on rushing yards but should gain that back this year with the dumpoffs ala Westbrook... LT also faces the tougher run D's of the AFC..

LJ: The loss of Roaf will not affect LJ as much as it would of Priest and Trent. The bad effect of this though is Herm wants to run the ball alot: A to keep the D off the field, and B control the clock. His ypc should also take a small hit this year because of it but should have a lot more yards. LJ also faces some tougher run D's but is aggressive and young enough to make a fool of them...

speculation.

Unless LJ gets some breaks from the backups the total could be over 400 carries by season end.. That kind of punishment will add up. LJ has the chance to be huge this season if our line and LJ holds up..Any one of these could easily be 1st, but Alexander lines up agianst far inferior D's the LJ or LT...

Logical · 08-15-2006, 06:42 PM

Oooooooo I had forgot all about Westbrook I will take him over LJ if he can stay healthy in our league. I am feeling better and better about being able to get LJ late, hell maybe if I draft 8th I can get him then bang take Chad Johnson 9th.

Valiant · 08-15-2006, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Logical

We set up our scoring to give WRs a slight advantage if they get a lot of receptions, that is what makes a RB who catches a lot of balls so valuable, also the game to game consistency is far better with WRs and RBs who get a lot of catches. In the past the absolute studs have been LT, Priest, and Marshall Faulk.

Our league (12 man) makes a lot of the players equal with bonuses for over 200 yards/400 passing and such for WR/RB/QB's so every team should get decent scoring out of their stars.. I hate leagues that put so much emphasis on RB scoring because only 3-5 RB's stand out every year and pretty much if you follow the standard draft you will never beat them in the playoffs with those teams... You want to win a standard scoring league, draft your two starters and then six backup RB's who you think will breakout or second tier RB's.. HOrde them until someone needs them and then trade for thier best WR/QB.. Goes in your favor for keeping them from scoring for other teams and when you do trade you get their best player, while not hurting your team and just washing(scoring wise) on theirs..

bogie · 08-15-2006, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsMan

I usually have the mindset that if one of my fantasy players is playing the Chiefs, if their team is gonna score....it just had better be that player!

Logical · 08-15-2006, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant

Our league (12 man) makes a lot of the players equal with bonuses for over 200 yards/400 passing and such for WR/RB/QB's so every team should get decent scoring out of their stars.. I hate leagues that put so much emphasis on RB scoring because only 3-5 RB's stand out every year and pretty much if you follow the standard draft you will never beat them in the playoffs with those teams... You want to win a standard scoring league, draft your two starters and then six backup RB's who you think will breakout or second tier RB's.. HOrde them until someone needs them and then trade for thier best WR/QB.. Goes in your favor for keeping them from scoring for other teams and when you do trade you get their best player, while not hurting your team and just washing(scoring wise) on theirs..

Trades are pretty much non-existent in our league always been that way. In the 15 years I think there have been maybe 4 or 5 trades total.

Valiant · 08-15-2006, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Logical

Trades are pretty much non-existent in our league always been that way. In the 15 years I think there have been maybe 4 or 5 trades total.

You have 5 backup second tier RB's on your team and see how many trade offers you get.. the only people left to pick up would be backups...

Ketchup&Mustard · 08-15-2006, 08:00 PM

Definitely a homer, since I have LJ, Green, and Gonzo in one of my leagues.

**Dartgod** · 08-15-2006, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Logical

Oooooooo I had forgot all about Westbrook I will take him over LJ if he can stay healthy in our league.

This is just f***ing dumb.

**Smed1065** · 08-15-2006, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Logical

I expect to pick him up anywhere from 4 to 7 in my leagues but we have owners who really study the offensive lines as well as the performance last year. I almost guarantee that S Alexander will be 1, LT 2, Tiki 3, Steven Smith 4, Marvin Harrison or Peyton Manning 5, so I figure I can get LJ from 6 to 7 if I end up drafting that low. I would take him as high as 4 if I had the chance though.

Has not happened yet to date, now what?

**Smed1065** · 08-15-2006, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Logical

Trades are pretty much non-existent in our league always been that way. In the 15 years I think there have been maybe 4 or 5 trades total.

Show us your 4 trophies.. Sorry I doubted you. 3 is all that will fit so show us 3 and thats ok this time!

Brent

Logical · 08-15-2006, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by smed1065

Show us your 4 trophies.. Sorry I doubted you. 3 is all that will fit so show us 3 and thats ok this time!

Brent

I have only won twice in those two leagues and we rotate the trophy putting a little metal tab on it with our names. I have pictures but they are not digital.

Logical · 08-15-2006, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by smed1065

Has not happened yet to date, now what?

One league drafts on the Wed nite before the Thursday kickoff game the other drafts the afternoon of the Thursday game.

Logical · 08-15-2006, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

This is just f***ing dumb.

No his receptions will give him killer numbers in our league if he stays healthy.

08-15-2006, 01:49 AM
Logical Screw U if U can't take a joke Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Are you a FF baller or a homer? If you say you are taking LJ count yourself as a homer. If you say Shawn Alexander then count yourself as a baller If you are in a league with QBs that get 6 then you have other options. This could all change if Roaf comes back so for now assume Roaf is not coming back.
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08-15-2006, 06:36 PM	#62
Logical Screw U if U can't take a joke Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	By the way I can handle normal rules and a 12 team league, I have won one and placed third in the other in the only two I have ever played in. While everyone went nuts on RBs I took Peyton Manning and he threw 49 TDs for me. I had shitty RBs but I was killing them week in and week out with Peyton.
Posts: 31,579

08-15-2006, 06:36 PM	#63
Valiant Valiant 'The Thread Killer' Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $6102380	The top 3 backs no matter what scoring system and their possible outcomes from the Valiant FF book: Alexander: Loss of Hutch hurts Alexanders TD mark, but with the loss of Joe Jurivicious and Hutch their passing game will take more of a hit.. This forces the ball to Alexander more this year, his ypc will take a hit but he should have the same amount if not a little bit more yards but less TDs.. Alexander also plays in one of the worse divisions agianst week run D's LT: The loss of Brees will force teams to stack more agianst the run and Gates because they will hope to fluster Rivers. Rivers will dump off the ball to LT more then last year to help Rivers that and Schotty is the Coach and will drive that into his head and play conservative.. LT will take a loss on rushing yards but should gain that back this year with the dumpoffs ala Westbrook... LT also faces the tougher run D's of the AFC.. LJ: The loss of Roaf will not affect LJ as much as it would of Priest and Trent. The bad effect of this though is Herm wants to run the ball alot: A to keep the D off the field, and B control the clock. His ypc should also take a small hit this year because of it but should have a lot more yards. LJ also faces some tougher run D's but is aggressive and young enough to make a fool of them... speculation. Unless LJ gets some breaks from the backups the total could be over 400 carries by season end.. That kind of punishment will add up. LJ has the chance to be huge this season if our line and LJ holds up..Any one of these could easily be 1st, but Alexander lines up agianst far inferior D's the LJ or LT...
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08-15-2006, 06:42 PM	#64
Logical Screw U if U can't take a joke Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Oooooooo I had forgot all about Westbrook I will take him over LJ if he can stay healthy in our league. I am feeling better and better about being able to get LJ late, hell maybe if I draft 8th I can get him then bang take Chad Johnson 9th.
Posts: 31,579

08-15-2006, 08:00 PM	#69
Ketchup&Mustard Rookie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Witness Protection Casino cash: $10004900	Definitely a homer, since I have LJ, Green, and Gonzo in one of my leagues.
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