Leonard Davis Available - Page 6

Chiefaholic · 10-15-2006, 11:50 AM

Cardinals | L. Davis on the trade block
Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:17:42 -0700

Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports Arizona Cardinals OT Leonard Davis is available at the trade deadline. Davis has fallen out of favor with head coach Dennis Green and the team is reportedly asking for "a pick or a player," according to an NFC general manager. The general manager added it appears the team would like to trade him "for pretty much anything, they seemed like they were just trying to unload him."

BigChiefFan · 10-17-2006, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

I understand he doesn't make 9 mil a year every year. This is Davis' big contract. Your rookie contract you usually get a nice signing bonus followed by small per year base salaries. The second contract is the pay-day contract because by the time the third one comes around you are 30+ years old and your value goes down. This is the time Davis is looking for the cash cow. It'll take a lot of money to sign him, even if it is signing bonus money that can be spread out. And, he's not a good tackle. He's given up the same number of sacks as Black.

Black hasn't started EVERY game, like Davis has. Turley started a couple of games for us-see the difference? Davis also doesn't have Brian Waters next to him, like he would here.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 10-17-2006, 11:33 AM

I would give them an 8th round pick or both 9th rounders !

Frankie · 10-17-2006, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JBucc

If we get him and get Welbourne back and possibley Turley our O-line would have some pretty good depth. Do it Carl you POS!

Maybe we can turn Turley into a blocking fullback!

ChiefsCountry · 10-17-2006, 11:40 AM

Getting Davis would allow us to focus our first round pick on WR or DT.

Frankie · 10-17-2006, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

Build a good line through the draft, not by a band-aid like Davis.

Two words: Roaf, Waters.

ChiefsCountry · 10-17-2006, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

Two words: Roaf, Waters.

Three words: Weigmann, Roaf, Waters

Frankie · 10-17-2006, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Three words: Weigmann, Roaf, Waters

I stand corrected. Thanks.

Frankie · 10-17-2006, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

Maybe we can turn Turley into a blocking fullback!

Actually this was a toungue-in-cheek post. But hey, worth a try?

**AustinChief** · 10-17-2006, 12:05 PM

btw.. on a side note... Davis is *slightly* bigger than Big Willie.

Chiefnj · 10-17-2006, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Getting Davis would allow us to focus our first round pick on WR or DT.

Uggh. That's the completely wrong approach. Davis doens't solve anything, unless you want to try him at RG to replace Shields. He sucks as a starting LT. He was a great college player, who never developed. He's the Ryan Sims of left offensive tackles. The Cardinals had one of the worst, if not THE worst, offensive lines last year. If he can't earn a spot with them, why in the world does anyone think he'd be good in KC?

WR and DT are two of the riskiest round 1 draft spots. Use free agency for a WR or DT and draft a LOT.

Frankie · 10-17-2006, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

WR and DT are two of the riskiest round 1 draft spots. Use free agency for a WR or DT and draft a LOT.

Absolutely.

JBucc · 10-17-2006, 12:39 PM

Get Davis and draft an LT anyway. Let Davis be our RG for next year. And even if we don't trade for him we can try to sign him in the offseason.

BigChiefFan · 10-17-2006, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

Uggh. That's the completely wrong approach. Davis doens't solve anything, unless you want to try him at RG to replace Shields. He sucks as a starting LT. He was a great college player, who never developed. He's the Ryan Sims of left offensive tackles. The Cardinals had one of the worst, if not THE worst, offensive lines last year. If he can't earn a spot with them, why in the world does anyone think he'd be good in KC?

WR and DT are two of the riskiest round 1 draft spots. Use free agency for a WR or DT and draft a LOT.

Where do you get that he sucks as a LT? He doesn't. He's isn't the best LT in the game, but he has skills. Also, why didn't you answer me about Jordan Black giving up the same amount of sacks in HALF the time? I believe that's a very relative point and one that is being ignored.

Chiefnj · 10-17-2006, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Where do you get that he sucks as a LT? He doesn't. He's isn't the best LT in the game, but he has skills. Also, why didn't you answer me about Jordan Black giving up the same amount of sacks in HALF the time? I believe that's a very relative point and one that is being ignored.

If he's a good LT why don't the Cards want him? Do teams typically give up good LT's or let them walk away, or appear to be willing to trade them for 7th round draft picks? Would a team with one of the worst OL's the last several seasons give up on their LOT if they thought he was any good?

From GoChiefs post #54 - "Well this is unsettling. According to Stats, Inc he's already allowed 5.5 sacks this year. Same number as Jordan Black.

Just because he might be better than Black doesn't mean Davis is good. McLeon was better than Bartee, but it doesn't mean I want either of them starting at corner.

BigChiefFan · 10-17-2006, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

If he's a good LT why don't the Cards want him? Do teams typically give up good LT's or let them walk away, or appear to be willing to trade them for 7th round draft picks? Would a team with one of the worst OL's the last several seasons give up on their LOT if they thought he was any good?

From GoChiefs post #54 - "Well this is unsettling. According to Stats, Inc he's already allowed 5.5 sacks this year. Same number as Jordan Black.

Just because he might be better than Black doesn't mean Davis is good. McLeon was better than Bartee, but it doesn't mean I want either of them starting at corner.

Because he's in Denny's doghouse.
Did the Saints give up Willie Roaf? Yes, they did- a PRO BOWL LT was traded to us, how'd that work out?

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