The OFFICIAL LT>LJ THREAD - Page 7

LTforMVP · 11:14 AM

As a public service to some of you ignorant Chiefs fans I have decided to update you weekly with the greatness that is LaDanian Tomlinson.

LaDanian Tomlinson is only half a year older than Larry Johnson but while Larry Johnson was whining and pouting because his white Super Bowl winning coach couldnt couldnt relate to him LT was busy putting up awesome years behind a weak Chargers offensive line.

LT is, was, and will always be a better RB than LJ

Tomlinson

+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 2001 sdg | 16 | 339 1236 3.6 10 | 59 367 6.2 0 |
| 2002 sdg | 16 | 372 1683 4.5 14 | 79 489 6.2 1 |
| 2003 sdg | 16 | 313 1645 5.3 13 | 100 725 7.2 4 |
| 2004 sdg | 15 | 339 1335 3.9 17 | 53 441 8.3 1 |
| 2005 sdg | 16 | 339 1462 4.3 18 | 51 370 7.3 2 |
| 2006 sdg | 11 | 258 1324 5.1 23 | 51 470 9.2 3 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 91 | 1960 8507 4.4 95 | 393 2862 7.3 11 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

Seasons among the league's top 10
Rushes: 2001-3, 2002-2, 2004-6, 2005-5, 2006-3
Rushing yards: 2001-9, 2002-2, 2003-3, 2004-7, 2005-6, 2006-1
Rushing TDs: 2001-4t, 2002-5, 2003-6, 2004-1, 2005-3, 2006-1
Receptions: 2003-4
Yards from scrimmage: 2001-9, 2002-3, 2003-1, 2004-5t, 2005-5, 2006-1
Rush/Receive TDs: 2001-10t, 2002-6, 2003-3t, 2004-2, 2005-3, 2006-1

Among the league's all-time top 50
Rushes: 28
Rushing yards: 24
Rushing TDs: 8
Yards from scrimmage: 43
Rush/Receive TDs: 13

Larry Johnson (AKA DiaperBoy)
+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 2003 kan | 6 | 20 85 4.2 1 | 1 2 2.0 0 |
| 2004 kan | 10 | 120 581 4.8 9 | 22 278 12.6 2 |
| 2005 kan | 16 | 336 1750 5.2 20 | 33 343 10.4 1 |
| 2006 kan | 11 | 310 1312 4.2 13 | 32 375 11.7 2 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 44 | 786 3728 4.7 43 | 88 998 11.3 5 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

Seasons among the league's top 10
Rushes: 2005-7, 2006-1
Rushing yards: 2005-3, 2006-2
Rushing TDs: 2005-2, 2006-2
Yards from scrimmage: 2005-2, 2006-2
Rush/Receive TDs: 2005-2, 2006-2

Larry Johnson is not in the all-time top 50 in any major category.

siberian khatru · 11-29-2006, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free

Lets say you are deep in the playoffs. Your team is down by 4 & the game has been a brutal meat grinder for all.

But you've got 4th & goal from the 3 and there is 5 seconds left, your QB just took a vicious slam that has left his pitching arm hanging on by a few back hairs...

He cant wing the winner for you...

Who do you dolt fans REALLY want when ya gotta smash thru 4 guys for that game winning 3 yard TD???

I know who i want truckin' the rock for me...... Superman

Trick question: LT can thow, LJ is unproven in that regard. LT comes in at QB and throws the game-winner.

leviw · 11-29-2006, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free

Lets say you are deep in the playoffs. Your team is down by 4 & the game has been a brutal meat grinder for all.

But you've got 4th & goal from the 3 and there is 5 seconds left, your QB just took a vicious slam that has left his pitching arm hanging on by a few back hairs...

He cant wing the winner for you...

Who do you dolt fans REALLY want when ya gotta smash thru 4 guys for that game winning 3 yard TD???

I know who i want truckin' the rock for me...... Superman

I'd kneel on it. Your QB obviously won't be able to play the next week. No way you can win with a back up.

Signed,

All the post-week 1 "Our season is over, we're playing for the No. 1 draft pick, Damon Huard fucking sucks" doubters.

milkman · 11-29-2006, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LTforMVP

Age is much more relevant when talking about how much longer someone will play in the league as well as when they will decline than how many years they have been a starter

Warner starting at later age didnt change the fact that his skills started to decline at the same age as other QBs

Bad example.

Warner's skills didn't decline.

He was a flash in the pan.

QBs usually can play at a high level into the mid 30s.

His "skills" started to decline at the same time that Marshall Faulk started to decline physically.

greg63 · 11-29-2006, 11:48 AM

The effectiveness of one back over the other is greatly contingent upon the play of ones offensive line as it pertains to their effectiveness against the opposition’s defensive line.

That is all.

Hog Rider · 11-29-2006, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free

Lets say you are deep in the playoffs. Your team is down by 4 & the game has been a brutal meat grinder for all.

But you've got 4th & goal from the 3 and there is 5 seconds left, your QB just took a vicious slam that has left his pitching arm hanging on by a few back hairs...

He cant wing the winner for you...

Who do you dolt fans REALLY want when ya gotta smash thru 4 guys for that game winning 3 yard TD???

I know who i want truckin' the rock for me...... Superman

William Perry!

GROB · 11-29-2006, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free

Lets say you are deep in the playoffs. Your team is down by 4 & the game has been a brutal meat grinder for all.

Well both SD and KC fans are in fantasy land here. No one even answer the question for the amount of yards and TD's they have scored equal how many playoff wins?

**Easy 6** · 11-29-2006, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GROB

Well both SD and KC fans are in fantasy land here. No one even answer the question for the amount of yards and TD's they have scored equal how many playoff wins?

Did your parents have any kids that lived???

**Dartgod** · 11-29-2006, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GROB

Well both SD and KC fans are in fantasy land here. No one even answer the question for the amount of yards and TD's they have scored equal how many playoff wins?

One less playoff win than the Donks have had since Smellway retired. And that one win was a gift from the refs.

GROB · 11-29-2006, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod

One less playoff win than the Donks have had since Smellway retired. And that one win was a gift from the refs.

I wouldn't call 5 turnovers gifts from the refs.

**Dartgod** · 11-29-2006, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GROB

I wouldn't call 5 turnovers gifts from the refs.

I can't recall specifics, but I do remember thinking at the time that New England got jobbed by the refs in that game.

The point is though, you shouldn't be throwing around "playoff win" smack when Shanarat has gone from "Offensive Mastermind" to "Playoff flop" now that Elway is no longer accepting payments under the table.

milkman · 11-29-2006, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GROB

Well both SD and KC fans are in fantasy land here. No one even answer the question for the amount of yards and TD's they have scored equal how many playoff wins?

It's a dumbass question.

Football is a team sport.
Walter Payton, aguably one of the top three RBs all time didn't win a SB until he was on the downside of his career, because the team he played for pretty much sucked throughout most of his career.

Eric Dickerson never won one.

GROB · 11-29-2006, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod

I can't recall specifics, but I do remember thinking at the time that New England got jobbed by the refs in that game.

The point is though, you shouldn't be throwing around "playoff win" smack when Shanarat has gone from "Offensive Mastermind" to "Playoff flop" now that Elway is no longer accepting payments under the table.

Refs arguement is weak, only time it could apply is if you played a perfect game and lost which could never happen. If you score everytime, stop other team, no penalties, no turnovers, if you didn't do that throw the ref excuse out. Besides the pats were the help with one the biggest blow call in history tuck rule. Even Brady thought game was over because it was a fumble, but I laughed because it was faders.

**Dartgod** · 11-29-2006, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GROB

Refs arguement is weak, only time it could apply is if you played a perfect game and lost which could never happen. If you score everytime, stop other team, no penalties, no turnovers, if you didn't do that throw the ref excuse out. Besides the pats were the help with one the biggest blow call in history tuck rule. Even Brady thought game was over because it was a fumble, but I laughed because it was faders.

Keep on ignoring the actual point of my post.

Dungver has ONE more playoff win than KC/SD since Elway retired.

Chiefnj · 11-29-2006, 01:52 PM

IMO, there is no debate that Romo deserves the MVP.

He has done what no other player has ever been able to achieve in years and years. He has single handedly gotten Terrell Owens to be quiet and move out of the limelight. He is a true American hero.

LTforMVP · 11-29-2006, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Braincase

LJ was drafted by the GM ahead of the coaches wishes by a team that emphasized passing over running and had a guy named Priest Holmes ahead of him on the depth chart.

LJ finally has his coach, and he's leading the league in rushing behind a patchwork O-line.

Johnson tuned out when Vermeil talked

Larry Johnson, appearing in a feature with Cris Carter on HBO’s “Inside the NFL” this week, makes it clear again that he really wasn’t all that interested in playing for Dick Vermeil.

“I wouldn’t pay attention,” Johnson said of playing under Vermeil. “My eyes, I would be up in the sky. You know, I would be sleeping in my locker. I wouldn’t carry my playbook because I was just trying to get away from this building, you know, when Dick was here.”

Carter asked LJ, “Do you think Herm Edwards, being an African-American and you being raised, of course, by an African-American, that you see a lot of similarities in Herm that you saw in your dad that made you open up to him?”

LJ’s response: “I think so. I could relate to Herman. I couldn’t do that with the other coaches I had because they had not done it. You know, they haven’t put those pads or they haven’t been in the situation as a young black athlete and know what we had to go through.

“You know, when we go out, you know, we like to go out. You know, we like to hang out. We like to have fun. But then you got to worry about the guy around the corner with the gun. You got to worry about this girl on the block. You got to worry about, you know, your parents. You got to worry about your homeboys taking advantage of you.

“There’s so much things you got to worry about being a young black athlete. And to be able to have a father like mine and have a coach like Herm, I was able to escape a lot of those realities and find myself in a new ray of light.”

------------------------------------------------

At least LJ would be winning the only willing to work with black coaches stat. You guys can hang your hat on that one.

11-28-2006, 09:47 PM
LTforMVP Starter Join Date: Nov 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	The OFFICIAL LT>LJ THREAD As a public service to some of you ignorant Chiefs fans I have decided to update you weekly with the greatness that is LaDanian Tomlinson. LaDanian Tomlinson is only half a year older than Larry Johnson but while Larry Johnson was whining and pouting because his white Super Bowl winning coach couldnt couldnt relate to him LT was busy putting up awesome years behind a weak Chargers offensive line. LT is, was, and will always be a better RB than LJ Tomlinson +--------------------------+-------------------------+ \| Rushing \| Receiving \| +----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+ \| Year TM \| G \| Att Yards Y/A TD \| Rec Yards Y/R TD \| +----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+ \| 2001 sdg \| 16 \| 339 1236 3.6 10 \| 59 367 6.2 0 \| \| 2002 sdg \| 16 \| 372 1683 4.5 14 \| 79 489 6.2 1 \| \| 2003 sdg \| 16 \| 313 1645 5.3 13 \| 100 725 7.2 4 \| \| 2004 sdg \| 15 \| 339 1335 3.9 17 \| 53 441 8.3 1 \| \| 2005 sdg \| 16 \| 339 1462 4.3 18 \| 51 370 7.3 2 \| \| 2006 sdg \| 11 \| 258 1324 5.1 23 \| 51 470 9.2 3 \| +----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+ \| TOTAL \| 91 \| 1960 8507 4.4 95 \| 393 2862 7.3 11 \| +----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+ Seasons among the league's top 10 Rushes: 2001-3, 2002-2, 2004-6, 2005-5, 2006-3 Rushing yards: 2001-9, 2002-2, 2003-3, 2004-7, 2005-6, 2006-1 Rushing TDs: 2001-4t, 2002-5, 2003-6, 2004-1, 2005-3, 2006-1 Receptions: 2003-4 Yards from scrimmage: 2001-9, 2002-3, 2003-1, 2004-5t, 2005-5, 2006-1 Rush/Receive TDs: 2001-10t, 2002-6, 2003-3t, 2004-2, 2005-3, 2006-1 Among the league's all-time top 50 Rushes: 28 Rushing yards: 24 Rushing TDs: 8 Yards from scrimmage: 43 Rush/Receive TDs: 13 Larry Johnson (AKA DiaperBoy) +--------------------------+-------------------------+ \| Rushing \| Receiving \| +----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+ \| Year TM \| G \| Att Yards Y/A TD \| Rec Yards Y/R TD \| +----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+ \| 2003 kan \| 6 \| 20 85 4.2 1 \| 1 2 2.0 0 \| \| 2004 kan \| 10 \| 120 581 4.8 9 \| 22 278 12.6 2 \| \| 2005 kan \| 16 \| 336 1750 5.2 20 \| 33 343 10.4 1 \| \| 2006 kan \| 11 \| 310 1312 4.2 13 \| 32 375 11.7 2 \| +----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+ \| TOTAL \| 44 \| 786 3728 4.7 43 \| 88 998 11.3 5 \| +----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+ Seasons among the league's top 10 Rushes: 2005-7, 2006-1 Rushing yards: 2005-3, 2006-2 Rushing TDs: 2005-2, 2006-2 Yards from scrimmage: 2005-2, 2006-2 Rush/Receive TDs: 2005-2, 2006-2 Larry Johnson is not in the all-time top 50 in any major category. Last edited by LTforMVP; 12-06-2006 at 11:14 AM..
Posts: 136

11-29-2006, 11:48 AM	#94
greg63 Homer go crazy!!! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SE Kansas Casino cash: $6574990	The effectiveness of one back over the other is greatly contingent upon the play of ones offensive line as it pertains to their effectiveness against the opposition’s defensive line. That is all. __________________
Posts: 19,234

11-29-2006, 01:52 PM	#104
Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	IMO, there is no debate that Romo deserves the MVP. He has done what no other player has ever been able to achieve in years and years. He has single handedly gotten Terrell Owens to be quiet and move out of the limelight. He is a true American hero. __________________ "I always tell (the assistant coaches), 'Make it simple, 'cause I'm stupid,'" Edwards said. "This ain't computer football." Herm Edwards, 3-20-07 Q: Herm, back on December 25th you were asked if Trent Green was your starter going into next season and you said, ‘yeah, why wouldn’t he be?’ Have you changed your mind on that? EDWARDS: No, I have not.” (1-11-07)
Posts: 6,811