LJ's Contract

Direckshun · 06-09-2007, 09:11 AM

What's your philosophy on this whole matter?

If you're King Carl, do you pay the man (and if so, how much) or trade the man (and if so, when)?

Poll forthcoming.

unothadeal · 06-09-2007, 09:14 AM

He won't last 8 years at the top.

10 Years.

EDIT: Oops. Meant to say 10 Mil

kcfan82 · 06-09-2007, 09:14 AM

Offer him less than LT, but more than your average NFL back. Explain to him although he is a good back, he also had the pleasure of a great Oline which needs to be paid for too. Add a few incentives into his contract for # of carries, yards, YPC, etc.

el borracho · 06-09-2007, 09:16 AM

Well, I don't have any specific suggestions about numbers but one thing I would like to see us do is front-load the contract. We have the cap room and it would be nice to have the option of cutting him in a few years if we need to.

**Bowser** · 06-09-2007, 09:16 AM

5 year 48 mil with a 15.5 mil bonus

Splat420 · 06-09-2007, 09:17 AM

Top five money would be fine with me no more then top three.

CoMoChief · 06-09-2007, 09:20 AM

Well, we can't really trade him now because he's in the last year in his deal and the draft has already passed up by. If we sign him to a long term deal, not many teams are gonna want to eat that contract up. I think Carl is backed into a corner on this one. Not only that but LJ has already paid his dues and Carl knows that it would be awfully hard to fill up Arrowhead if he leaves.

CoMoChief · 06-09-2007, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AntiMizzou

Offer him less than LT, but more than your average NFL back. Explain to him although he is a good back, he also had the pleasure of a great Oline which needs to be paid for too. Add a few incentives into his contract for # of carries, yards, YPC, etc.

Our Oline was horrible last season and he set the NFL record for carries in a season. LJ has more than paid his dues in KC.

blueballs · 06-09-2007, 09:33 AM

it's not my money
this is Carl's problem
and media's bonanza

milkman · 06-09-2007, 09:46 AM

8 years for a RB is insane.

4 years, tops.

OctoberFart · 06-09-2007, 10:22 AM

He is worth 80 year 80 mil with 40 mil guaranteed.

KurtCobain · 06-09-2007, 02:05 PM

I'd pay him 8 years/ 60 mill. And then cut/trade him when he gets older.

keg in kc · 06-09-2007, 02:20 PM

8 years is nuts for a 27-/28-year old RB.

I think he has maximum of 4-5 peak years left, so I'd go a max of 6 years, with the typical 1-2 voidable years at the end.

It's a risk, but what isn't...

jlscorpio · 06-09-2007, 02:24 PM

Bowser for GM

Eleazar · 06-09-2007, 02:44 PM

It all depends on how it's structured. If it's one of those deals where he'll never see the money at the back end anyway then maybe.

Since he turns 28 this season, you can reasonably predict 3 more productive seasons barring some sort of injury. 31 is about the time to cut bait on a running back, maybe past time for someone with that kind of a running style.

Maybe a 5 year deal that could end after 3?

View Poll Results: LJ walks into your office and wants $80 million over 8 years.
$80 million for 8 years? He’s worth it. Pay the man.	7	12.07%
I’d love to lock up LJ for 8 years, but not for $80 million. Knock it down $20 or $30 mill and we’ll talk.	9	15.52%
$10 million/year makes sense considering he’s elite, but not for 8 years. More like 4-ish.	27	46.55%
Pay the man his fancy contract and then trade him when he’s 30, 31.	3	5.17%
See if you can negotiate it down to a 2 or 3 year deal for relatively little, and if that’s not possible, ta ta LJ.	1	1.72%
Trade. Him. ASAP. He’s worth more now than he’ll ever be.	9	15.52%
Gaz (please explain).	2	3.45%
Voters: 58. You may not vote on this poll

06-09-2007, 09:11 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4193447	LJ's Contract What's your philosophy on this whole matter? If you're King Carl, do you pay the man (and if so, how much) or trade the man (and if so, when)? Poll forthcoming.
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06-09-2007, 09:14 AM	#2
unothadeal HOF 20?? Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $5115120	He won't last 8 years at the top. 10 Years. EDIT: Oops. Meant to say 10 Mil Last edited by unothadeal; 06-09-2007 at 10:53 AM..
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06-09-2007, 09:14 AM	#3
kcfan82 Starter Join Date: May 2007 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10004900	Offer him less than LT, but more than your average NFL back. Explain to him although he is a good back, he also had the pleasure of a great Oline which needs to be paid for too. Add a few incentives into his contract for # of carries, yards, YPC, etc.
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06-09-2007, 09:16 AM	#4
el borracho In Pat We Trust Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Albuquerque, NM Casino cash: $6129148	Well, I don't have any specific suggestions about numbers but one thing I would like to see us do is front-load the contract. We have the cap room and it would be nice to have the option of cutting him in a few years if we need to.
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06-09-2007, 09:16 AM	#5
Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $3221616	5 year 48 mil with a 15.5 mil bonus
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Splat420 I can't spell Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Clinton Casino cash: $10004900	Top five money would be fine with me no more then top three.
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06-09-2007, 09:20 AM	#7
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $8032254	Well, we can't really trade him now because he's in the last year in his deal and the draft has already passed up by. If we sign him to a long term deal, not many teams are gonna want to eat that contract up. I think Carl is backed into a corner on this one. Not only that but LJ has already paid his dues and Carl knows that it would be awfully hard to fill up Arrowhead if he leaves. __________________
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06-09-2007, 09:33 AM	#9
blueballs Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	it's not my money this is Carl's problem and media's bonanza
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milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	8 years for a RB is insane. 4 years, tops. __________________
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06-09-2007, 10:22 AM	#11
OctoberFart Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Casino cash: $10006091	He is worth 80 year 80 mil with 40 mil guaranteed.
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KurtCobain legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Independence, MO Casino cash: $-1727903	I'd pay him 8 years/ 60 mill. And then cut/trade him when he gets older.
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06-09-2007, 02:20 PM	#13
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	8 years is nuts for a 27-/28-year old RB. I think he has maximum of 4-5 peak years left, so I'd go a max of 6 years, with the typical 1-2 voidable years at the end. It's a risk, but what isn't...
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06-09-2007, 02:24 PM	#14
jlscorpio Veteran Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rapid City, SD Casino cash: $10004900	Bowser for GM __________________ For those who believe, no explanation is necessary; for those who don't believe, no explanation will do.
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06-09-2007, 02:44 PM	#15
Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	It all depends on how it's structured. If it's one of those deals where he'll never see the money at the back end anyway then maybe. Since he turns 28 this season, you can reasonably predict 3 more productive seasons barring some sort of injury. 31 is about the time to cut bait on a running back, maybe past time for someone with that kind of a running style. Maybe a 5 year deal that could end after 3?
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