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Tonight's Coast to Coast AM: Creationism
Tonight's apparently a break from the paranormal, with the brains behind fishdontwalk.com debunking the theory of evolution.
Go to http://www.coasttocoastam.com/info/wheretolisten.html to find the station near you. |
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07-03-2007, 10:01 PM | #2 |
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Creationism is not science.
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07-03-2007, 10:02 PM | #3 |
testing ... 1, 2, 3
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Awesome. Thanks for the heads-up, Mr. keg in kc.
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07-03-2007, 10:11 PM | #4 |
Ride on!
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YAWN....
this guy is just a bible thumper that wants to say enormous odds are proof of creationism. not one solid fact.
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07-03-2007, 10:21 PM | #6 | |
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07-04-2007, 12:36 AM | #7 |
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He's not very convincing, I'm afraid to say.
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07-04-2007, 01:57 AM | #8 |
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JRex commits harry carey.
Like you did not think it first....... BS! |
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07-04-2007, 02:10 AM | #9 | |
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In the American vernacular, "theory" often means "imperfect fact"--part of a hierarchy of confidence running downhill from fact to theory to hypothesis to guess. Thus the power of the creationist argument: evolution is "only" a theory and intense debate now rages about many aspects of the theory. If evolution is worse than a fact, and scientists can't even make up their minds about the theory, then what confidence can we have in it? Indeed, President Reagan echoed this argument before an evangelical group in Dallas when he said (in what I devoutly hope was campaign rhetoric): "Well, it is a theory. It is a scientific theory only, and it has in recent years been challenged in the world of science--that is, not believed in the scientific community to be as infallible as it once was." |
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07-04-2007, 08:13 AM | #10 |
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The only problem Evolution has is the fact that there are a gazillion similar species on this planet untilit comes to humans. Humans are unique in their species. I find it turly amazing how the Theory of Evolution seems to ignore this very fact.
On the other hand Creationaism is very simple and in some cases too simple to explain things. The fact is we are symbiots with the entire universe. We depend on everything around us. We depend on the sun, the moon, the birds and the bees, the flowers and the trees. We all did come from something. There is no life in this universe without death and no death obviously without life. And anyone who says they know how we came about is full of shit. |
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07-04-2007, 10:40 AM | #11 |
Is this it?
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Humans are unique as the only remaining example of hominid. But there are plenty of fossil evidence for other hominid beside Homo sapiens. If you mean only to include existing species and ignore fossil evidence, I would suggest you note that like all the great apes, we are tailless, we are ambulatory with unique use of the arms compared to other group of animals, we have binocular vision like all primates, we share the same Vitamin C defect in our enzymes with apes, Old and New World monkeys and so on.
Yes human existence has unique chararcteristics of language and bipedal motion, but the evidence in the fossil record indicates the movement from a common ancestor to humans as these traits were selected as advantageous. As to your allusion to the symbiotic relationship. I tend to agree. Evolution isn't about survival of the fittest but the perpetuation of the combinations of genetic material. As such integration as well as competition offers strategies that can be successful in securing the next generation.
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07-04-2007, 10:55 AM | #12 | |
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There are tons of holes in the theory of evolution, but the most interesting to me is sexual reproduction. All specieis would of had to start out asexual, then as the species evolved they would have to evolve into different sexes and not only become sexually mature at the same time, but also have members of the opposite sex around when they did. If the odds of that happening with 1 species weren't mind boggeling enough, every species of mammal, reptile, fish, and bird evolved to reproduce in the same way, with a sperm fertilizing an egg. That is 15,500 species of mammals, 20,000 species of fish, 6,000 reptiles, 9,000 birds, and 1,000 amphibians that all happen to evolve from asexual beings, to sexual beings that create either eggs or sperm. |
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07-04-2007, 11:41 AM | #13 |
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I've really been blown away by some animal studies recently. It's convinced me more than ever that these creatures just couldn't get to their final, efficient, surviving, state by just super small changes over time. There are too many things that have to all be in place for the system to work.
If anyone wants to hear more, I'd love to talk about it. I've been really fascinated by it all. It's really changed my mind on some things. PM me. |
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07-04-2007, 11:44 AM | #14 |
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I think the part about "break from the paranormal" to now debunking evolution really says more than anything I could offer...
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07-04-2007, 11:57 AM | #15 |
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Start a thread over in DC like this should have been, and you'll get to say your piece. Expect to get bitch slapped however so have a tough skin...
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