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Old 03-24-2008, 10:52 AM  
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Peter King: Herm will draft Matt Ryan to buy himself another year
I still doubt the Chiefs will take Ryan, but this is an interesting rationale for why they might and this is totally in line with the piece of garbage that Herm is.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...21/mmqb/1.html

Kansas City. Boston College QB Matt Ryan. Just a hunch, though they'll have trouble passing on Michigan offensive tackle Jake Long.

Strange thing here. At the combine, Carl Peterson told me the Chiefs loved Ryan, but there was no way they could take him because of their needs elsewhere. (Offensive line, I'm guessing.) Then they sent half the front office to his workout the other day at BC. Methinks Carl does not want to be the man to pass on the guy he thinks will be a franchise player. The other thing this does is buy coach Herman Edwards one more year of rebuilding. Even if the Chiefs go 5-11 this year, they couldn't whack Edwards until after they got a really good look at Ryan.
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:11 PM   #121
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Isn't that the same we heard about Brodie Croyle? It was the reason he got injurred, his supporting cast was so bad?
Slight difference though.......Ryan didn't suffer any devastating injuries, Croyle has 3 times...

Here are Croyle's top 2 years passing in college...

2005 339 202 59.6 2,499 14 4 132.8

2003 341 182 53.4 2,303 16 13 118.0

Now let's compare that to Matt Ryan for just a moment...

2007 654 388 59.3 4,507 31 19 127.0

2006 426 262 61.5 2,939 15 10 126.4

Ryan nearly had as many passes in 1 year as Croyle did in 2...Sometimes I don't think people realize how much BC relied upon him. They may have not won a game without him.
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:12 PM   #122
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I'm trying to say that Alex should have never beeen drafted that high, but because the QB class was weak, the best of the bunch was elevated above the level that he would be if he played any other position. The same is happening with Ryan, and he will eventually be a product of that.
Smith has also had 4 OC's in 4 years......his situation is screwed up not to mention coming out of the spread option gives him a bigger curve.
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:15 PM   #123
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Ryan is the kind of QB you want, he won games without a supporting cast. His stats are also pretty impressive for not having any real targets.
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:16 PM   #124
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Smith has also had 4 OC's in 4 years......his situation is screwed up not to mention coming out of the spread option gives him a bigger curve.
It has not been fortunate for him, but he has shown Jack, and Shit.

He's had better lines than Croyle.
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:19 PM   #125
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It has not been fortunate for him, but he has shown Jack, and Shit.

He's had better lines than Croyle.
Yea cause we didn't draft Joe Staley!

Alex Smith is a ridiculously bad comparison for Ryan, different kind of players from different systems.

If you want to give me Ryan comparisons use someone who atleast came from a pro style offense. Smith comes from the shit Missouri runs, Ryan actually you know took snaps from under center.
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:21 PM   #126
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Yea cause we didn't draft Joe Staley!

Alex Smith is a ridiculously bad comparison for Ryan, different kind of players from different systems.

If you want to give me Ryan comparisons use someone who atleast came from a pro style offense. Smith comes from the shit Missouri runs, Ryan actually you know took snaps from under center.
Yea, It never had anything to do with their styles or stats, just the position they were in aproaching the draft.
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:21 PM   #127
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I think Ryan is a much better prospect than Smith was. Of course I thought Rodgers was better than Smith too. I'd also take Brohm over Smith.
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:22 PM   #128
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I think Ryan is a much better prospect than Smith was. Of course I thought Rodgers was better than Smith too. I'd also take Brohm over Smith.
I agree with everything you just said.
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But in the eyes of scouts, and media, Ryan is not the prospect Alex was.
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The only reason people don't get enamored with Ryan is because he doesn't have a huge arm.

Ryan is a polar opposite of Alex Smith in the way he plays so lets stop comparing them. Matt Ryan compares to guys like Matt Hasselbeck or even Eli Manning for his skills not Alex Smith.
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:27 PM   #131
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The only reason people don't get enamored with Ryan is because he doesn't have a huge arm.

Ryan is a polar opposite of Alex Smith in the way he plays so lets stop comparing them. Matt Ryan compares to guys like Matt Hasselbeck or even Eli Manning for his skills not Alex Smith.
The reason people aren't enamored is because he can play like Jeff George for 58 minutes and then Joe Montana for 2 minutes. In the NFL those 58 George minutes will kill you and your team.
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The reason people aren't enamored is because he can play like Jeff George for 58 minutes and then Joe Montana for 2 minutes. In the NFL those 58 George minutes will kill you and your team.
Have you seen his supporting cast again? Ryan was pretty much phenomenal to do what he did with those players he had around him.
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The reason people aren't enamored is because he can play like Jeff George for 58 minutes and then Joe Montana for 2 minutes. In the NFL those 58 George minutes will kill you and your team.
And he constantly holds on to the ball, then fires back across his body, both of which will ruin him in the pros.
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Have you seen his supporting cast again? Ryan was pretty much phenomenal to do what he did with those players he had around him.
He made a lot happen improvising which I don't think he's gonna be able to do when the defensive talent shoots up on him.
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The offensive talent will also shoot up around him, helping him more...
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